UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann

[Brietta]

Indeed,the PJ are waiting patiently for them to catch up.

That is opinion expressed as fact.  The 'bedding in' leeway on this is now passed.  All future lapses will be deleted.

[Brietta]

Really,how many have the PJ made Arguidos since the archiving,not counting those that SY wanted to be.

I believe Euclides Monteiro might have been a contender.

[barrier]

I believe Euclides Monteiro might have been a contender.

Long since passed away,might have been an a contender in so much as who contacted him,imo.

[stephen25000]

That is opinion expressed as fact.  The 'bedding in' leeway on this is now passed.  All future lapses will be deleted.

' The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)" '

Mmm.

That if you need reminding, is expressing an opinion, and 'abduction' is not a determined fact.

...and lacing it up in speech marks does not make it a fact either.

[Eleanor]

That is opinion expressed as fact.  The 'bedding in' leeway on this is now passed.  All future lapses will be deleted.

Indeed, Brietta.  No more Mrs. Nice Guy.  Such a pity.  I would so much prefer that basically intelligent posters played by the rules, which they all no doubt understand.

[barrier]

That is opinion expressed as fact.  The 'bedding in' leeway on this is now passed.  All future lapses will be deleted.

Having just re read the rules the post in question didn't fall foul of those,but hey ho.

[carlymichelle]

' The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)" '

Mmm.

That if you need reminding, is expressing an opinion, and 'abduction' is not a determined fact.

exactly an  opinion i dont believe in censorship and imo thats what some people  want that around here  there are no laws on the internet  as much as some would love there to be so those of us  who believe in free speech will use  it

[slartibartfast]

In my opinion your post shows a great deal of disrespect for the officers assigned to the missing person inquiry with Madeleine McCann as its focus.

According to this link the police have investigated and ruled out more than six hundred individuals including the four of apparent current fora angst.

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Mr Rowley insisted the investigation has achieved "an awful lot".

He said: "I think people get seduced perhaps by what they see in TV dramas where the most complex cases are solved in 30 minutes or 60 minutes.

What we started with here was something extraordinary.

"We've achieved a complete understanding of it all.
We've sifted out many of the potential suspects, many of the people of interest and where we are today is with a much smaller team focused on a small number of remaining critical lines of inquiry that we think are significant."
http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/madeleine-hunt-police-pursuing-significant-line-of-inquiry-10/


As far as I am concerned that is definite progress as far as the investigation and Madeleine are concerned.

Better by far than her case sitting ignored in a Portuguese archive over the past ten years don't you think?  Which is precisely where it would still be without "the flawed tunnel vision" of the police force tasked with finding Madeleine McCann.

Worth a reminder here that Scotland Yard are hand in glove with the current Policia Judiciaria in this endeavour.

Reminds you of...

"This is not, unfortunately, a police story, a crime fit for the investigative mind of a Sherlock Holmes or a Hercule Poirot, guided by the illusion that the forces of law and justice always restore order."

[Eleanor]

Having just re read the rules the post in question didn't fall foul of those,but hey ho.

If Brietta thinks it did, then it did.  It is for her to decide.  This is not an easy job, and no one tries harder than Brietta to be fair.

[ShiningInLuz]

In my opinion your post shows a great deal of disrespect for the officers assigned to the missing person inquiry with Madeleine McCann as its focus.

According to this link the police have investigated and ruled out more than six hundred individuals including the four of apparent current fora angst.

Quote
Mr Rowley insisted the investigation has achieved "an awful lot".

He said: "I think people get seduced perhaps by what they see in TV dramas where the most complex cases are solved in 30 minutes or 60 minutes.

What we started with here was something extraordinary.

"We've achieved a complete understanding of it all.
We've sifted out many of the potential suspects, many of the people of interest and where we are today is with a much smaller team focused on a small number of remaining critical lines of inquiry that we think are significant."
http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/madeleine-hunt-police-pursuing-significant-line-of-inquiry-10/


As far as I am concerned that is definite progress as far as the investigation and Madeleine are concerned.

Better by far than her case sitting ignored in a Portuguese archive over the past ten years don't you think?  Which is precisely where it would still be without "the flawed tunnel vision" of the police force tasked with finding Madeleine McCann.

Worth a reminder here that Scotland Yard are hand in glove with the current Policia Judiciaria in this endeavour.

I cannot for the life of me understand how hauling Paulo Ribeiro from Luz to Faro, making him an arguido, forcing him to pay for a lawyer, and subjecting him to 250 questions, can possibly be considered good practice.  And I see no point in defending the indefensible.  That man simply does not have the mental capacity to keep a major secret to himself for 7 years.

What was wrong with the PJ station in Portimão used for the McCann interviews?  Was it too far from the OG hotel?

Anyone who watched Panorama's interview with Paulo Ribeiro who thinks he was treated 'professionally' by OG is severely lacking in empathy, IMO.  Unless empathy for them starts and ends with Kate and Gerry.

[carlymichelle]

I cannot for the life of me understand how hauling Paulo Ribeiro from Luz to Faro, making him an arguido, forcing him to pay for a lawyer, and subjecting him to 250 questions, can possibly be considered good practice.  And I see no point in defending the indefensible.  That man simply does not have the mental capacity to keep a major secret to himself for 7 years.

What was wrong with the PJ station in Portimão used for the McCann interviews?  Was it too far from the OG hotel?

Anyone who watched Panorama's interview with Paulo Ribeiro who thinks he was treated 'professionally' by OG is severely lacking in empathy, IMO.  Unless empathy for them starts and ends with Kate and Gerry.

they  dont care about anyone but  gerry and  kate   imho it shows  too

[Benice]

All things have to be considered, as so many of you rightly demand.  The Police in UK often scour and dig up ground only to find nothing.

To say they achieved nothing is very short sighted.  And at least now no one can say that Madeleine's body could have been dumped there by her parents, but no one bothered to look.

It seems to me that the criticism of SY is the same as that often made re the McCanns.  i.e. Even though they have no ability  to be able to see into the future  - that is no excuse for them not knowing beforehand what the outcome of every investigative move they make is going to be  - before they've made it.

Which is why statements like '12 million spent and nothing to show for it' are so preposterous IMO.

AIMHO

[Erngath]

they  dont care about anyone but  gerry and  kate   imho it shows  too

I really do wish you would stop making that statement.
It is not true.

[Eleanor]

I really do wish you would stop making that statement.
It is not true.

You are right.  It isn't true.

[barrier]

Which is why statements like '12 million spent and nothing to show for it' are so preposterous IMO.

AIMHO

Many years later and at a fraction of the cost, professional opinion allowed an accidental death to be the cause of Ben Needhams disappearance, so its not so preposterous imo.