CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[G-Unit]

Do you have any concerns about Amaral accusing a named person of having a fetish for bathing children ?

If he made similar comments about me or a member of my family I would first check the translation (which has a disclaimer). I would then pursue him and the TV station for a retraction. It remains to be seen if those accused react.

I haven't seen evidence that the person involved had a fetish for bathing children, but I have seen evidence that his behaviour caused another person to be concerned about him.

I don't quite see why it should concern me, though. I would need to know the person named very well before I became concerned on their behalf.

[stephen25000]

Oh yes Stephen I am well aware that you believe me to be a hypocrite.
I would not discuss the.bathing of Amarals children nor the bathing of the McCann children nor do I intend doing so.
I asked G Unit if she had any concerns about Amarals labelling, implying.stating that one of the witnesses had a fetish for bathing children and actually naming said person.

Yet you are discussing it by referring to Amaral, and his views on the case.

The irony being, that any guests who have no knowledge of Amaral's claims, might look up the files and/or watch the video with translation.

[John]

Oh yes Stephen I am well aware that you believe me to be a hypocrite.
I would not discuss the.bathing of Amarals children nor the bathing of the McCann children nor do I intend doing so.
I asked G Unit if she had any concerns about Amarals labelling, implying.stating that one of the witnesses had a fetish for bathing children and actually naming said person.

The first question I would ask is whether it is normal or even acceptable practice for a grown male to bathe young children belonging to friends?  The next question is what evidence does Amaral rely upon in order to make the claim he does?

[Mr Gray]

The first question I would ask is whether it is normal or even acceptable practice for a grown male to bathe young children belonging to friends?  The next question is what evidence does Amaral rely upon in order to make the claim he does?

I think we should have an answer to the second question first

[stephen25000]

The second question wouldn't be an issue, but for the first.

[misty]

The source of the accusations clearly did not have any issues, before or after witnessing the alleged gesture, with her own husband overseeing the bathing of other people's children so there was nothing abnormal about that practice in her eyes.

[stephen25000]

The source of the accusations clearly did not have any issues, before or after witnessing the alleged gesture, with her own husband overseeing the bathing of other people's children so there was nothing abnormal about that practice in her eyes.

That, like many things in this case, is a matter of opinion.

[misty]

That, like many things in this case, is a matter of opinion.

It's borne out by the statements. There is no expression of the group bathing being an abnormal practice that either parent was previously unhappy about participating in. They continued to do so in spite of what they allegedly witnessed.

[stephen25000]

It's borne out by the statements. There is no expression of the group bathing being an abnormal practice that either parent was previously unhappy about participating in. They continued to do so in spite of what they allegedly witnessed.

I presume you can provide citations for all of this, and in reference to Mrs. Gasper's comments.

I certainly don't view washing other peoples children as normal practice.

[misty]

I presume you can provide citations for all of this, and in reference to Mrs. Gasper's comments.

I certainly don't view washing other peoples children as normal practice.

Your views of the practice are irrelevant. It is the opinion of the accuser which is pertinent.
The fathers in the group on the Majorca holiday dealt with the little ones' bath.time & there must have been more than one adult involved, given the number of children. The accuser didn't appear to have an issue with GM being involved.

[stephen25000]

Your views of the practice are irrelevant. It is the opinion of the accuser which is pertinent.
The fathers in the group on the Majorca holiday dealt with the little ones' bath.time & there must have been more than one adult involved, given the number of children. The accuser didn't appear to have an issue with GM being involved.

Amaral expressed his view.

That you and others wouldn't like it , is rather obvious.

I have expressed mine.

[Brietta]

Exactly what is the relevance to Madeleine McCann's disappearance from Praia da Luz while on holiday, to the holiday spent in Majorca?

[G-Unit]

Exactly what is the relevance to Madeleine McCann's disappearance from Praia da Luz while on holiday, to the holiday spent in Majorca?

The video is titled O Enigma. The person being discussed is described by Amaral as the enigma in or of the case. So the discussion is relevant to the thread.

[misty]

Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. The accuser had no problem with the practice of fathers dealing with bath time prior to allegedly witnessing the gesture. IMO she did not view the activity as abnormal, nor did she remove her own child from the situation. She had no problem with her own husband bathing the children of other parents after the alleged incident.
Whether or not you or I approve of what the group did is irrelevant. They were good friends. Most people don't have a problem with their in-laws bathing their children, if required, or leaving them with friends who act as babysitters.

[G-Unit]

Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. The accuser had no problem with the practice of fathers dealing with bath time prior to allegedly witnessing the gesture. IMO she did not view the activity as abnormal, nor did she remove her own child from the situation. She had no problem with her own husband bathing the children of other parents after the alleged incident.
Whether or not you or I approve of what the group did is irrelevant. They were good friends. Most people don't have a problem with their in-laws bathing their children, if required, or leaving them with friends who act as babysitters.

The accuser never said whether she was happy with the arrangement or not. You have chosen to interpret her lack of comment as meaning she approved, but it can be interpreted differently. She may have found it strange but went along with a group decision rather than cause trouble.

The group were not good friends. The Gaspers were friends with the McCanns, but not the others;

I did not know these two families before we went on holidays together.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Gaspar.htm