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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2017, 07:22:09 AM »
'The curtains of the bedroom which were drawn, closed' she says, with arm actions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw
Yes but it is the net curtains only that are blowing in the breeze.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2017, 08:02:44 AM »
Amaral seems to be determined that the cadaver carried in the Scenic was frozen (and thawing).  So I'd say a body in a freezer is really hidden.  I was going to see the connection of the timing of the 3 men carrying a bag into the church and the cadaver in wagon story.  Did someone note the dates?  With the dialogue in Portuguese and subtitles  I find it rather difficult to go through the entire video. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2017, 08:03:37 AM »
Yes but it is the net curtains only that are blowing in the breeze.

If you are referring to the video made by/for the McCanns yes they are. Is that because no matter how hard they tried they couldn't get the heavier curtains to move, I wonder? I think you'd need a gale for that, not a breeze. Listen to what she says, not what a made-up video shows you.



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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2017, 08:16:17 AM »
If you are referring to the video made by/for the McCanns yes they are. Is that because no matter how hard they tried they couldn't get the heavier curtains to move, I wonder? I think you'd need a gale for that, not a breeze. Listen to what she says, not what a made-up video shows you.
Net curtains blowing in the breeze is good enough for me.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2017, 08:29:19 AM »
Amaral seems to be determined that the cadaver carried in the Scenic was frozen (and thawing).  So I'd say a body in a freezer is really hidden.  I was going to see the connection of the timing of the 3 men carrying a bag into the church and the cadaver in wagon story.  Did someone note the dates?  With the dialogue in Portuguese and subtitles  I find it rather difficult to go through the entire video.

Amaral seems to be convinced that Madeleine's DNA was in the car, and his opinion is based on the first report from the FSS. That's the reason why he theorises about a body being stored. Is that first report in the files? I'm not sure.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2017, 08:31:19 AM »
Net curtains blowing in the breeze is good enough for me.

Not for me.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2017, 08:35:45 AM »
Not for me.
So you want something that was physically impossible without a tornado outside.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2017, 08:59:06 AM »
So you want something that was physically impossible without a tornado outside.

I don't want anything. I am listening to what Kate McCann says and she says the curtains were drawn. Nobody 'draws' net curtains because the point of nets is that they remain closed all the time.

The patio door curtains were also closed, so Kate's story of glancing behind to see if she'd left the patio door open wouldn't have told her anything - the curtain would have hidden the door.

Regarding the apartment: windows were closed but she doesn't know if they were locked. Veranda window closed but not locked, curtains closed......

The window in Madeleine's room remained closed, but she doesn't know if it was locked, blinds and curtains drawn.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2017, 09:54:33 AM »
interesting video....i think it proves beyond doubt what an absolute idiot amaral is and Im sure he will support my freedom of speech in saying so...anyone who believes his rubbish is severely deluded

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2017, 10:09:34 AM »
interesting video....i think it proves beyond doubt what an absolute idiot amaral is and Im sure he will support my freedom of speech in saying so...anyone who believes his rubbish is severely deluded

Interesting post. A man who references the statements is an 'absolute idiot' but others who clearly haven't examined the files are applauded. Obviously what matters to some is the conclusion reached rather than the evidence examined;

Horrocks has some credibility and has been to Luz
He says an abduction is possible and fairly easy
That seems a reasonable conclusion
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Offline John

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2017, 10:11:40 AM »
interesting video....i think it proves beyond doubt what an absolute idiot amaral is and Im sure he will support my freedom of speech in saying so...anyone who believes his rubbish is severely deluded

It might be rubbish and then again much of it might not be rubbish.  Many of the observations he makes are perfectly sound in investigatory terms, he is entitled to espouse a view on that basis.

Must I remind you that the McCanns and their friends were afforded every opportunity to cooperate with the Portuguese enquiry and even after it had been archived the parents could have asked for it to be reopened. The Portuguese Attorney General made this very clear in his final report.

In reality they couldn't leave Portugal soon enough despite promising Madeleine that they would not go home without her.  They had sufficient funds thanks to a generous public which would have allowed them to maintain a base in Praia da Luz in order to pursue the investigation and encourage the local police but that did not happen.  Instead of developing a relationship with the local community which could have led to further lines of enquiry they alienated them.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2017, 10:18:27 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2017, 10:15:31 AM »
It might be rubbish and then again much of it might not be rubbish.  Many of the observations he makes are perfectly sound in investigatory terms, he is entitled to espouse a view on that basis.

Must I remind you that the McCanns and their friends were afforded every opportunity to cooperate with the Portuguese enquiry and even after it had been archived the parents could have asked for it to be reopened. The Portuguese Attorney General made this very clear in his final report.

In reality they couldn't leave Portugal soon enough despite promising Madeleine that they would not go home without her.

there is too much that is easily provable to be blatantly wrong...the man has no credibility

Offline barrier

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2017, 10:18:02 AM »
there is too much that is easily provable to be blatantly wrong...the man has no credibility

Was he responsible for Madeleines disappearance do you think?
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Offline John

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2017, 10:19:18 AM »
there is too much that is easily provable to be blatantly wrong...the man has no credibility

And you can explain away the blatant discrepancies?

Amaral was right about something else, the original English police were sent there to protect them, not to find Madeleine.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2017, 10:22:36 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2017, 10:27:34 AM »
there is too much that is easily provable to be blatantly wrong...the man has no credibility

Would you care to list the points which are 'blatantly wrong' in the video? We can discuss them point by point then.
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