CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[Erngath]

how can anyone take him seriously

I have no idea.
That video is disgraceful.

[ferryman]

Who said the McCanns could not, reasonably, have been expected to foresee an abduction of any of their children?

Who is Amaral, to gainsay Mark Harrison, who concluded his final report by saying that if Madeleine was dead, it was most likely her remains had been thrown into the sea?

Amaral misattributes to Harrison that Harrison said Madeleine was definitely buried somewhere.

In fact Harrison explicitly ruled out burial.

[G-Unit]

There is much made of the language barrier when supporters are defending the McCanns. Perhaps it might be acknowledged that such things can work both ways. 

Amaral describes in his book how Harrison showed them a video of Grime's dogs in training and at work 'in over 200 investigations'. Did Harrison verbally refer to over 200 investigations? We don't know what he said when promoting the use of the dogs, do we? He may have said the same as Grime below and been misunderstood.


In six years of operational deployment in over 200 criminal case searches
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Criminal case searches are not the same as criminal cases. The dogs were involved in one case in Luz, but carried out many searches.

[Eleanor]

I am gobsmacked by the biased innuendo in that video.  I think I'll leave t at that.

[G-Unit]

To begin with.

What a big deal Amaral makes in the video  over which door Gerry used to go into 5A!      He even walks the reporter round the route to show how much longer it was not to go in via the patio doors and to emphasise what a big 'lie' Gerry had told.   

 He omits to mention the initial confusion/misunderstandings between the PJ and witnesses when first taking statements that was caused because some people referred to the patio doors as the front door and some referred to them as the back door.   This confusion is mentioned by the UK police officer taking a rog statement from JT.
 
He omits to mention that Gerry corrected that error days later in his very next statement - ( I presume after he had read through it in English).  Instead he gives the impression that the PJ found out about it later - without any assistance from Gerry.       

He omits to mention Gerry's reason for changing his statement - or explain why that reason was not recorded.    One would think that if this was the massively big deal that Amaral was now claiming it to be to that reporter - then surely Gerry's explanation for why he changed his statement would have been of extreme importance to the PJ  and be recorded in detail.    But not a word.  Why not? 

This is a typical example of  'Lying by omission'  IMO.    This is when no actual lie is told -  but instead vital facts are deliberately withheld  from a 'story' in order to con people into believing what they definitely would not believe if those vital facts had been included.

I notice that the distance from the Tapas to the little gate at 5a has shrunk from the 100 metres in his book - to between 40 and 50 metres when he wanted to impress on the reporter how 'strange' it was for Gerry to go the long way round when the back door was so close.

 IMO Amaral took advantage of the fact that there is no record of what Gerry's reasons were for correcting his first statement.  Just as he did with JT when (on his instructions)  because no statement was taken from her to prove otherwise, he claimed she had formally identified RM.

I cannot believe anyone would think that Amaral's description of which door Gerry used was a fair one - by any stretch of the imagination.

AIMHO

Gerry changed his story. If he explained why it wasn't recorded so how on earth do you expect Amaral to be privy to something only the interpreter heard?

There was no confusion between the PJ and the witnesses unless you have a cite for that? One UK policewoman was a bit slow getting her head round things and that's all. it's hardly fair to take that isolated comment and apply it to every interview in the UK and Portugal, now is it?

[Erngath]

The video is in Portguese.  The subtitles do not lend the reader to believe these  are "opinions".

[G-Unit]

So you are only able to find one point which wasn't made by Amaral in the video, yet you are happy to say 'The video is full of lies... Fact'.

Soundbites, faux outrage, goading and accusations I have seen plenty of, but they are just opinions. List the lies you've spotted!!!!!!!!

[Mr Gray]

So you are only able to find one point which wasn't made by Amaral in the video, yet you are happy to say 'The video is full of lies... Fact'.

Soundbites, faux outrage, goading and accusations I have seen plenty of, but they are just opinions. List the lies you've spotted!!!!!!!!

Answer the second point first before I waste my time
The  idea is just a rerun of lies he has told before
He talks of cadaver odour as being a fact
It isnt

[G-Unit]

Answer the second point first before I waste my time
The  idea is just a rerun of lies he has told before
He talks of cadaver odour as being a fact
It isnt

Please give the time reference.

[John]

The video is in Portguese.  The subtitles do not lend the reader to believe these  are "opinions". The subtitles are in my opinion very  libelous  and I find it difficult to believe that these are being allowed on this forum.

I think I will add a caveat to the opening post mirroring the text at the top of each forum page, namely...

* Media reports provided on this forum are for information only                       
* Endorsement of such material is neither intended nor implied   

[Mr Gray]

Please give the time reference.

im quite happy to highlight some of the lies in the video...there are many....before I do could you confirm your opinion of it....do you believe it is accurate and does not contain lies#

[ferryman]

The McCanns moved into the villa long after a full-scale police and civilian search had been mounted.

The McCanns knew nothing about the villa until just before they moved into it.

Who thinks Mark Harrison wrote, with a straight face, that the villa might be (sic) an obvious place to look for Madeleine's (sic) concealed and deceased remains?

He certainly wrote it.

[Robittybob1]

I am stating a fact...since when have facts been banned on this forum

amaral believes the alerts confirm cadaver odour...that is rubbish...some sceptics believe that...they therefore believe rubbish

amaral beleives the alerts are evidence...thats rubbish...some sceptics beleive that...they therefore believe rubbish

I don't often agree with you but this time I do.

[ShiningInLuz]

If anyone thinks there is an issue with the subtitles, please give me a time-stamp and I will be happy to check it against the Portuguese.

At the moment, my priority is the Sky 2 May 2017 special.  Then I intend to move onto the Panorama 3 May 2017 special.

So please keep any chunk you wish to be checked short, and I need the time it appeared.   

[Brietta]

If anyone thinks there is an issue with the subtitles, please give me a time-stamp and I will be happy to check it against the Portuguese.

At the moment, my priority is the Sky 2 May 2017 special.  Then I intend to move onto the Panorama 3 May 2017 special.

So please keep any chunk you wish to be checked short, and I need the time it appeared.   

Thank you for your generous offer, Shining.  I've had a very quick look at some of the video so probably very unfair to comment but I must say from what I have read on the thread that the Portuguese media seems to be trapped in some sort of time warp here.

Ten years ago Madeleine McCann was alleged to have fallen victim to an abductor.

What does Goncalo Amaral have to add to that?  He got it entirely wrong as far as the dog alerts and understanding of the forensic evidence is concerned.  So why does this documentary feature him and his unproven and unprovable theorising (creepers~freezers~churches~coffins~crematoria) in such depth?