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ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2017, 05:29:53 PM »
Here, incidentally, is where Mark Harrison wrote that the villa might be an "obvious" place to look for Madeleine's "concealed and deceased remains":

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- All accommodation occupied by the McCann family and their friends as well as any hired vehicles.
- The villa and garden occupied by Robert Murat and any vehicles he had access to.
- Areas of wasteland adjacent to Murat’s and the McCann’s apartment.
- Areas of the beach in Praia da Luz.
- A portion of the coastline east of Praia da Luz.
 
These recommendations were based on the fact that these areas had not been previously searched with the specific intent to locate Madeleine McCann’s concealed and deceased body and that the areas recommended afforded likely and obvious places to consider for concealment in such an investigation.

Of course the Renault Scenic was always an "obvious" place to look for Madeleine's "concealed and deceased remains", as was the villa ....

Who dreamed up this rubbish?

I don't believe, for one moment, it was Mark Harrison who, himself, drew up a perfectly logical (suggested!) schedule of searches, themselves, not omitted; rather added to, in a way superfluous and that, themselves, heaped yet more ill-deserved opprobrium on Kate and Gerry McCann.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2017, 05:39:29 PM »
Thank you for your generous offer, Shining.  I've had a very quick look at some of the video so probably very unfair to comment but I must say from what I have read on the thread that the Portuguese media seems to be trapped in some sort of time warp here.

Ten years ago Madeleine McCann was alleged to have fallen victim to an abductor.

What does Goncalo Amaral have to add to that?  He got it entirely wrong as far as the dog alerts and understanding of the forensic evidence is concerned.  So why does this documentary feature him and his unproven and unprovable theorising (creepers~freezers~churches~coffins~crematoria) in such depth?
From my brushes with the Portuguese media and looking at comments on-line, the Portuguese people seem to think the McCanns deserve to be hoisted by their own petard.  Trying to 'sell' any different line seems well-nigh impossible.

I am wary of the accuracy of the subtitles, as I believe they originate from an anti-McCann source, so they may be somewhat biased.  Hence my offer to check specific chunks.

And for the record, we have tabloid reporting in Portugal too.  Lurid and sensationalist is not restricted to Britain.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2017, 06:11:46 PM »
im quite happy to highlight some of the lies in the video...there are many....before I do could you confirm your opinion of it....do you believe it is accurate and does not contain lies#

You are making the claim. Provide your evidence for discussion point by point.
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ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2017, 06:14:18 PM »
You are making the claim. Provide your evidence for discussion point by point.

I've not watched the video, but it's Amaral.

Almost anything claimed in his book (which I have read) and repeated in the video will be suspect.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 02:52:29 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #79 on: May 27, 2017, 06:16:06 PM »
You are making the claim. Provide your evidence for discussion point by point.

I've made a perfectly reasonable request

Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2017, 06:29:13 PM »
Thank you for your generous offer, Shining.  I've had a very quick look at some of the video so probably very unfair to comment but I must say from what I have read on the thread that the Portuguese media seems to be trapped in some sort of time warp here.

Ten years ago Madeleine McCann was alleged to have fallen victim to an abductor.

What does Goncalo Amaral have to add to that?  He got it entirely wrong as far as the dog alerts and understanding of the forensic evidence is concerned.  So why does this documentary feature him and his unproven and unprovable theorising (creepers~freezers~churches~coffins~crematoria) in such depth?

He can say what he likes now. The McCann's long battle to gag him is over and they lost. The McCanns have done their share of promoting their theory, after all.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2017, 06:31:45 PM »
He can say what he likes now. The McCann's long battle to gag him is over and they lost. The McCanns have done their share of promoting their theory, after all.
He can't say what he likes in the uk
« Last Edit: May 27, 2017, 10:04:41 PM by John »

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2017, 06:37:19 PM »
I'm stating facts
If you disagree point out in the post in question what is not factual

List Amaral's claims, then prove which ones are false, by providing independent cites to back yourself up.

After all, you are the one stating his claims are false.

Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2017, 06:43:58 PM »

Try and look on the bright side.  Amaral won't want to give up the limelight now, so it can only get worse and more laughable.

Offline Angelo222

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2017, 08:20:09 PM »
being consistently wrong is nothing to be proud of

Ah but it has never been shown that Amaral is wrong, the parents never hung around long enough to be cleared of any wrongdoing so they have nobody to blame but themselves.  Maddie would have been so proud of their selfless efforts.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2017, 08:23:18 PM »
Ah but it has never been shown that Amaral is wrong, ...


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Offline barrier

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2017, 08:24:17 PM »
Ah but it has never been shown that Amaral is wrong, the parents never hung around long enough to be cleared of any wrongdoing so they have nobody to blame but themselves.  Maddie would have been so proud of their selfless efforts.

Funny thing I said as much the other day and my post was whoosed.
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ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2017, 08:25:48 PM »
Funny thing I said as much the other day and my post was whoosed.

I can understand why the post would be whooshed.

But not why anyone would make such an (ahem!) easy to disprove claim.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2017, 08:30:31 PM »
Ah but it has never been shown that Amaral is wrong, the parents never hung around long enough to be cleared of any wrongdoing so they have nobody to blame but themselves.  Maddie would have been so proud of their selfless efforts.

If that's the best argument you have its pretty pathetic
Jehovas witnesses haven't been proved wrong
Maddie could not have died falling off the sofa
Proof Amaral is wrong

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #89 on: May 27, 2017, 08:32:36 PM »
If that's the best argument you have its pretty pathetic
Jehovas witnesses haven't been proved wrong
Maddie could not have died falling off the sofa
Proof Amaral is wrong

Please keep to the facts.

It has not been determined what happened to Madeleine.