CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[G-Unit]

Lack of evidence is the issue. Not having enough to arrest and charge... some people just refuse to accept that Maddie is still missing, and has been looked for  globally and by two police forces, and Private Investigators. NO EVIDENCE OF ADBUCTORS. none- not an ounce. What does that tell you?

It confirms that abduction remains just one possible theory.

[Benice]

So they told what they thought was the truth, is that what you're saying? Telling the truth is really simple but in this case it seems very complicated. The only thing they all (roughly) agree on is the timeline and they wrote that together.

I also believe I possess common sense, logic and reasoned thought. Unlike you, though, I think it's perfectly possible for Gerry McCann to have entered the apartment through the locked door using his key. There's no reason to believe that it's illogical or unreasonable in my opinion. So appealing to abstract concepts doesn't work because they're subjective, not universal.

If you really don't think it's illogical to walk past an open door a few feet away from you,  and for no conceivable reason waste time walking another 50/60 metres or so - to attain the same goal -  i.e. to enter 5A - then I can't help you.

[ferryman]

Gerry was in the tapas restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting.

Jane saw a man carrying a child and the Smiths saw a man carrying a child.

PJ Inspector Joao Carlos ruled out 'woke and wandered'.

That'll do.

[Mr Gray]

It confirms that abduction remains just one possible theory.

you should watch it before commenting....amaral makes claims that are plainly untrue and then says...of that there is no doubt...that is not opinion

[stephen25000]

the parents are not susects in either investigation...there is no real evidence against them as amaral hs shown. Woke and wandered is unlikely...that makes abduction likely   ...

What evidence exists to show abduction ?

Don't bother referring to that old thread, there is none on there to show abduction.

SY and the PJ have not solved the case or determined Madeleine's fate.

None of the three main theories have been proved or disproved.

[Mr Gray]

What evidence exists to show abduction.,

Don't bother referring to that old thread, there is none on there to show abduction.

SY and the PJ have not solved the case or determined Madeleine's fate.

tell me which points you do not agree with...its quite simple...there are only 3 options

1 parents are not considered suspects...taht rules out parental invovement

2 the archiving report with access to all evidence says woke and wandered unlikely

3  that leaves abduction and is therefore shown to be by far the most likely based on logic

[Mr Gray]

I have watched it but I'm not prepared to trawl through it searching for the points raised.

so you have watched it but forgotten what was in it

[Angelo222]

tell me which points you do not agree with...its quite simple...there are only 3 options

1 parents are not considered suspects...taht rules out parental invovement

2 the archiving report with access to all evidence says woke and wandered unlikely

3  that leaves abduction and is therefore shown to be by far the most likely based on logic

1. No it doesn't. That situation could change very quickly when the new evidence is found.
2. The archiving report is nearly 10 years out of date. The woke and wandered theory is very valid and supported as a possibility by many experienced former detectives.
3. That doesn't leave abduction no matter how much you wish for it.  In fact abduction has no evidence to back it up.

Tell me davel, why do you ignore the facts in favour of fantasy?

[Angelo222]

what is not valid is the evidence amaral uses to support his theories...it is plainn wrong

You are not privy to what Amaral was told and especially so concerning the initial DNA analyses. He is entitled to form an opinion, after all, he was there from day one and knows a lot more about the case than most.  Granted some of his theories are far fetched but they are theories all the same and not stated fact as you previously claimed.

He persists in his allegation of parental involvement and that is his prerogative.

[Mr Gray]

You are not privy to what Amaral was told and especially so concerning the initial DNA analyses. He is entitled to form an opinion, after all, he was there from day one and knows a lot more about the case than most.  Granted some of his theories are far fetched but they are theories all the same and not stated fact as you previously claimed.

He persists in his allegation of parental involvement and that is his prerogative.

You miss the point
Have you watched the video
All his conclusions are based on flawed evidence
There is no evidence of a preliminary report but evidence that Amaral does not have a clue
He can have any opinion he wants but when he shows his conclusions are based on a poor understanding of the evidence he makes a fool of himself

[Mr Gray]

1. No it doesn't. That situation could change very quickly when the new evidence is found.
2. The archiving report is nearly 10 years out of date. The woke and wandered theory is very valid and supported as a possibility by many experienced former detectives.
3. That doesn't leave abduction no matter how much you wish for it.  In fact abduction has no evidence to back it up.

Tell me davel, why do you ignore the facts in favour of fantasy?

my fact....there is no real evidence against the mccanns....your fantasy...there may be some at a later date
my fact...discussing what amaral tells us he bases his conclusions on...your fantasy...he may know more

so it is you who does not accept the facts and beleives in fantasy...have a think

[Mr Gray]

You are not privy to what Amaral was told and especially so concerning the initial DNA analyses. He is entitled to form an opinion, after all, he was there from day one and knows a lot more about the case than most.  Granted some of his theories are far fetched but they are theories all the same and not stated fact as you previously claimed.

He persists in his allegation of parental involvement and that is his prerogative.

he does state his opinion as fact.......you need to watch the video...using words such as...of that there is no doubt...is not opinion

[ferryman]

1. No it doesn't. That situation could change very quickly when the new evidence is found.
2. The archiving report is nearly 10 years out of date. The woke and wandered theory is very valid and supported as a possibility by many experienced former detectives.
3. That doesn't leave abduction no matter how much you wish for it.  In fact abduction has no evidence to back it up.

Tell me davel, why do you ignore the facts in favour of fantasy?

The remit of operation grange is much more up-to-date than the archiving dispatch.

It is treating Madeleine's abduction as if her abduction had occurred in the UK.

[Mr Gray]

34.40..he(david) had  a paranoia....an interest in bathing children...a total and utter lie

38.20...we have these dogs taht have helped to solve 200 cases in the us and uk...........corpse odor detected...more lies

42.40...dna results manipulated..of that we have no doubt...more lies

46.50...we have no doubt that the children were put to sleep with calpol.......note the words...we have no doubt...more lies ...calpol does not put children to sleep


amaral clearly had and does not have a clue

[ferryman]

You are not privy to what Amaral was told and especially so concerning the initial DNA analyses. He is entitled to form an opinion, after all, he was there from day one and knows a lot more about the case than most.  Granted some of his theories are far fetched but they are theories all the same and not stated fact as you previously claimed.

He persists in his allegation of parental involvement and that is his prerogative.

No it isn't.

Amaral could not even get right the sequence of events while he was still coordinator.

On the basis alone Amaral (should!) forfeit any right to express any opinion and the Supreme Court has blundered shamefully.