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Offline pathfinder73

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #390 on: May 30, 2017, 08:07:35 PM »
 


Can you remind me of the date when that statement was made.

7 July 2008

"The case is listed to be heard in open court on July 7 in the Family Division of the High Court in London, and is expected to be contested by Leicestershire Police, according to legal sources."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2164743/Madeleine-McCann-parents-court-bid-for-information.html
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 08:10:01 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #391 on: May 30, 2017, 08:16:22 PM »
7 July 2008

"The case is listed to be heard in open court on July 7 in the Family Division of the High Court in London, and is expected to be contested by Leicestershire Police, according to legal sources."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2164743/Madeleine-McCann-parents-court-bid-for-information.html

Almost nine years ago.
Guess OG. know a little bit more now.

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #392 on: May 30, 2017, 08:28:32 PM »
Almost nine years ago.
Guess OG. know a little bit more now.

Really.

So they have solved how Madeleine disappeared, and her fate ?

Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #393 on: May 30, 2017, 08:30:07 PM »
The McCanns got the truth loud and clear from UK police in court when they wanted their files (July 2008).

‘While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.’ (LP)

Kate McCann's response the this has always interested me. Rather than mentioning anything which could eliminate them, she refers to how he had seen how grief-stricken they were shortly after the disappearance.  Does she really think that being grief-stricken is evidence?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #394 on: May 30, 2017, 08:31:13 PM »
Almost nine years ago.
Guess OG. know a little bit more now.



If eliminating dead end leads is what you call progress then that's up for debate but if they know more then expect new developments and changes in this case. I'm still waiting.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #395 on: May 30, 2017, 08:35:29 PM »
Really.

So they have solved how Madeleine disappeared, and her fate ?

No sadly they have not but they do seem to have eliminated her parents from any involvement in her disappearance.....................await the standard reply.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #396 on: May 30, 2017, 08:37:17 PM »
Almost nine years ago.
Guess OG. know a little bit more now.

I think your guess is questionable. According to A C Rowley they did not investigate parental involvement they assumed the first investigation had done that. So in that respect the situation remains the same as it was in July 2008.
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Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #397 on: May 30, 2017, 08:38:56 PM »
No sadly they have not but they do seem to have eliminated her parents from any involvement in her disappearance.....................await the standard reply.

Stephen, like others, has no evidence that the current police investigators have no evidence of abduction.

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #398 on: May 30, 2017, 08:40:38 PM »
If eliminating dead end leads is what you call progress then that's up for debate but if they know more then expect new developments and changes in this case. I'm still waiting.

But they do not seem to suspect Madeleine's parents of being involved in her disappearance
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #399 on: May 30, 2017, 08:41:49 PM »
I think your guess is questionable. According to A C Rowley they did not investigate parental involvement they assumed the first investigation had done that. So in that respect the situation remains the same as it was in July 2008.

either you did not understand what rowley said or you are deliberately repeating untruths. rowley assumed nothing. they looked at the original evidence and felt that the issue of the mccanns had been dealt with and agreed with the findings

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #400 on: May 30, 2017, 08:44:53 PM »
I think your guess is questionable. According to A C Rowley they did not investigate parental involvement they assumed the first investigation had done that. So in that respect the situation remains the same as it was in July 2008.

No I "guess" they know a little more than  in July 2008.
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stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #401 on: May 30, 2017, 08:51:25 PM »
Stephen, like others, has no evidence that the current police investigators have no evidence of abduction.

We already know, as  fact, no evidence has been found to show a third party in the apartment that night.

Forensic tests  have ceased.

There are no marks either in the apartment to show any other person was there, other than known parties.

Partial and unidentifiable fingerprints, and hair samples exist, but it doesn't mean they were made or left there that night.

It is clear that SY have not determined the method by which Madeleine disappeared from the apartment, and likewise her fate.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #402 on: May 30, 2017, 08:53:34 PM »
We already know, as  fact, no evidence has been found to show a third party in the apartment that night.

Forensic tests  have ceased.

There are no marks either in the apartment to show any other person was there, other than known parties.

Partial and unidentifiable fingerprints, and hair samples exist, but it doesn't mean they were made or left there that night.

It is clear that SY have not determined the method by which Madeleine disappeared from the apartment, and likewise her fate.

hair samples and partial prints have not been ruled out

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #403 on: May 30, 2017, 08:55:14 PM »
We already know, as  fact, no evidence has been found to show a third party in the apartment that night.

Forensic tests  have ceased.

There are no marks either in the apartment to show any other person was there, other than known parties.

Partial and unidentifiable fingerprints, and hair samples exist, but it doesn't mean they were made or left there that night.

It is clear that SY have not determined the method by which Madeleine disappeared from the apartment, and likewise her fate.


But they have determined that her parents played no part in her disappearance.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #404 on: May 30, 2017, 08:55:18 PM »
hair samples and partial prints have not been ruled out

As I said, what evidence is there they were left that night ?

NONE.