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Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #630 on: June 29, 2017, 04:13:02 PM »
Amaral claims that his sacking from the McCann case did not interrupt his police career.  He was getting along very well indeed and climbing the career ladder up which he could have climbed higher.
When Madeleine disappeared he had applied to be promoted to superior coordinator of the Judiciary Police ... and he seemed to be confident of gaining that promotion.

His change of direction from his chosen career and his resignation from that chosen career couldn't possibly have had anything to do with his conduct of Madeleine McCann's case and his subsequent sacking from it, could it?
Or might it have had something to do with his upcoming perjury trial and the consideration that half a pension on resignation was better than no pension at all on criminal conviction?
Whatever, I don't think either happenstance would have enhanced his hoped for continued career pathway.

O Enigma certainly seems to be less about the ten years missing child and all about eulogising Amaral.  Perhaps I'm missing something somewhere ... then perhaps the TV anchors are ensuring their audiences are missing a lot more.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2017, 04:53:41 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #631 on: June 29, 2017, 04:18:16 PM »
No case against the McCanns had ever been presented by the prosecution in the absence of a crime being verified which was the correct call by the AG. The SC had no jurisdiction to rule on the absence of proof of innocence  in what was a civil case & alter the archiving report accordingly.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2017, 05:00:02 PM by John »

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #632 on: June 29, 2017, 04:28:18 PM »
Amaral claims that his sacking from the McCann case did not interrupt his police career.  He was getting along very well indeed and climbing the career ladder up which he could have climbed higher.
When Madeleine disappeared he had applied to be promoted to superior coordinator of the Judiciary Police ... and he seemed to be confident of gaining that promotion.

His change of direction from his chosen career and his resignation from that chosen career couldn't possibly have had anything to do with his conduct of Madeleine McCann's case and his subsequent sacking from it, could it?
Or might it have had something to do with his upcoming perjury trial and the consideration that half a pension on resignation was better than no pension at all on criminal conviction?
Whatever, I don't think either happenstance would have enhanced his hoped for continued career pathway.

O Enigma certainly seems to be less about the ten years missing child and all about eulogising Amaral.  Perhaps I'm missing something somewhere ... then perhaps the TV anchors are ensuring their audiences are missing a lot more.
It was simply consumer product, and to be successful, had to give the Portuguese consumers what they wanted to consume.  The Sky and Panorama specials were similarly geared to consumer tastes in the UK.

Sauce for goose and sauce for gander.
What's up, old man?

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #633 on: June 29, 2017, 04:35:41 PM »
It was simply consumer product, and to be successful, had to give the Portuguese consumers what they wanted to consume.  The Sky and Panorama specials were similarly geared to consumer tastes in the UK.

Sauce for goose and sauce for gander.

IMO the UK public would like to know what really happened to Madeleine on 3/5/07. Do you consider that the Portuguese public are content with the ramblings of an officer long since removed from the case which bear little relation to either the files or current investigations?

Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #634 on: June 29, 2017, 04:41:05 PM »
It was simply consumer product, and to be successful, had to give the Portuguese consumers what they wanted to consume.  The Sky and Panorama specials were similarly geared to consumer tastes in the UK.

Sauce for goose and sauce for gander.

 ... and I am the one quite often accused of xenophobia  &%+((£   'Documentaries' such as O Enigma must indeed have a target audience ...

                     ... then so does Gerry Springer.

I think the Portuguese viewing public deserves better.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #635 on: June 29, 2017, 04:49:51 PM »
IMO the UK public would like to know what really happened to Madeleine on 3/5/07. Do you consider that the Portuguese public are content with the ramblings of an officer long since removed from the case which bear little relation to either the files or current investigations?

I am sure they would.
That,however, will not be realised by the prattlings of professional prattlers and retired police officers.
Politicians, generals and police officers should have their mouths stitched up on retirement...IMNSHO.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #636 on: June 29, 2017, 05:19:50 PM »
I wonder how many people believe the Mccann's story in Portugal ? 

All the money spent, and not one forensic trace showing someone else being in the apartment that  night.

All that matters is that NSY believe Madeleine was abducted.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #637 on: June 29, 2017, 05:20:56 PM »
I wonder how many people believe the Mccann's story in Portugal ? 

All the money spent, and not one forensic trace showing someone else being in the apartment that  night.

Do you have evidence that no forensic traces of Madeleine have been found away from 5A in a place where they would not expect to have been located? 

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #638 on: June 29, 2017, 05:22:00 PM »
All that matters is that NSY believe Madeleine was abducted.

Beliefs mean nothing.

Besides how many members of SY actually believe in abduction ?

Now there's a question.

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #639 on: June 29, 2017, 05:22:36 PM »
Do you have evidence that no forensic traces of Madeleine have been found away from 5A in a place where they would not expect to have been located?

Well if there was....

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #640 on: June 29, 2017, 09:50:05 PM »
Yet no one else has been found to have been in that apartment on the night Madeleine disappeared.

As far as you know.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #641 on: June 29, 2017, 11:54:59 PM »
Why did the anchor ask Goncalo Amaral if he felt he was the victim?  Is there any doubt that Madeleine is the primary victim with her family the secondary victims?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #642 on: June 30, 2017, 10:30:29 AM »
Back to O Enigma ... why did the anchor ask about Amaral's status as a victim?  I know he has been portrayed as such in the past by his supporters but the man himself seemed keen to disengage from that image now.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2017, 05:09:26 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Benice

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #643 on: June 30, 2017, 11:24:31 AM »
I'm gobsmacked if anyone can watch this video (and others) and come to the conclusion that it is the McCanns own fault if the PT people have turned against them.   IMO Amaral has been allowed to feed the PT public a continuous diet of disinformation and misinformation for the last 10 years  - with never a hint of a challenge in sight!     Isn't that exactly how propaganda works?       That would never be allowed to happen in this country - where opposing opinions are required for the sake of balance and fairness.

Add that to the vicious smear campaign conducted against the McCanns in the media from day one - and the natural desire of the Portuguese to want the perpetrator to be a 'foreigner' -  and is it any surprise if the totally one sided campaign against them has apparently been so successful.

AIMHO


 
« Last Edit: July 09, 2017, 05:10:25 PM by John »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #644 on: June 30, 2017, 11:58:34 AM »
I'm gobsmacked if anyone can watch this video (and others) and come to the conclusion that it is the McCanns own fault if the PT people have turned against them.   IMO Amaral has been allowed to feed the PT public a continuous diet of disinformation and misinformation for the last 10 years  - with never a hint of a challenge in sight!     Isn't that exactly how propaganda works?       That would never be allowed to happen in this country - where opposing opinions are required for the sake of balance and fairness.

Add that to the vicious smear campaign conducted against the McCanns in the media from day one - and the natural desire of the Portuguese to want the perpetrator to be a 'foreigner' -  and is it any surprise if the totally one sided campaign against them has apparently been so successful.

AIMHO

Amaral's actions and motivation have been examined by the Portuguese Courts and no sign of deliberately spreading disinformation was discovered. He has promoted his theory in his own country just as the McCanns have in theirs.

Anyone would think the Portuguese people just passively accept everything they are told by their media without question. I don't suppose they do, any more than people in the UK do. Scepticism regarding the MSM is higher than it's ever been. People laughed scornfully on Question Time last night at the suggestion that the UK media presents balanced news. To many, the newspapers in particular are irrelevant these days.
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