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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1005 on: September 14, 2017, 10:07:58 PM »
We don't believe him entirely for he was almost certain.
Almost certain of what?
Almost certain that they had identified the man or almost certain he was not the alleged abductor?
Why do you not believe him? He works for probably the best police investigation force in the world.

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Offline sadie

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1006 on: September 14, 2017, 10:21:02 PM »
So the car wasn't there then the one the manger talked about.  "When he arrived there, by vehicle, at around 21:10, he remembers that next to the Tapas reception, he saw a vehicle, dark blue in colour, with Portuguese license plates. Although he cannot be definite, he believes it was a Fiesta or Focus. The deponent furthers that is was not a small car, and for this reason it could very well have been a Focus and not a Fiesta. He tells that he does not remember any sticker indicating that it was a rental car. Inside the vehicle he saw no one. "
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ARLINDO-PELEGA.htm
Thankyou Rob

I also seem to remember, along with this and Stephen Carpenters statement about cars being along the road that a man, whose name evades me, was sleeping inhis van along that stretch of road.  Was he a musician?  I cant remember.

And a girl who was visiting her boyfriend, noted IIRC some cars along there.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Offline sadie

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1007 on: September 14, 2017, 10:22:57 PM »
Why would they be remembering if there were cars?

Exactly

The Carpenters, however, had to cross the road and they would notice.

Offline sadie

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1008 on: September 14, 2017, 10:26:04 PM »
We don't believe him entirely for he was almost certain.

I cant help wondering if "innocent man" was a Red Herring that SY fell for.   So much about that guy doesn't make sense to me .... but then I might be wrong

Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1009 on: September 14, 2017, 10:31:11 PM »
Almost certain of what?
Almost certain that they had identified the man or almost certain he was not the alleged abductor?
Why do you not believe him? He works for probably the best police investigation force in the world.

Poor Redwood. He seemed so pleased with his 'interesting and exciting information' and 'revelation moment' allowing his clock to tick away from Tannerman and towards Smithman; who had now become 'the centre of our focus'
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1010 on: September 14, 2017, 10:32:11 PM »
Almost certain of what?
Almost certain that they had identified the man or almost certain he was not the alleged abductor?
Why do you not believe him? He works for probably the best police investigation force in the world.
Well I believe his certain bits but not his almost certain bits. They were almost certain than the Tanner sighting was this creche dad.  But there are so many questions unanswered it never convinced me.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1011 on: September 14, 2017, 10:38:15 PM »
Poor Redwood. He seemed so pleased with his 'interesting and exciting information' and 'revelation moment' allowing his clock to tick away from Tannerman and towards Smithman; who had now become 'the centre of our focus'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ8jmdWlB8Y
https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=1151 to go to the exact spot
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Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1012 on: September 15, 2017, 01:37:39 AM »
Well I believe his certain bits but not his almost certain bits. They were almost certain than the Tanner sighting was this creche dad.  But there are so many questions unanswered it never convinced me.

One question I would like answered is where he had been to have ended up walking in the opposite direction from the creche when Jane saw him?
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Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1013 on: September 15, 2017, 02:38:10 AM »
One question I would like answered is where he had been to have ended up walking in the opposite direction from the creche when Jane saw him?

More pertinent than that I think is why none of the nannies on duty at the creche that night recognised the description of a man who had picked up his daughter from them or remembered caring for a little girl with frilly-bottomed pyjamas.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1014 on: September 15, 2017, 05:41:28 AM »
More pertinent than that I think is why none of the nannies on duty at the creche that night recognised the description of a man who had picked up his daughter from them or remembered caring for a little girl with frilly-bottomed pyjamas.
The time he signs for his child, how does that compare to the time of Jane's observation are also important considerations.  There isn't a lot of time variation available with the first check. 

Unless the sighting actually becomes Jez later picking up his daughter at a time after he had taken the younger son back home, and it being Jane's second return to her apartment, the one as late as  9:40 - 9:45 PM or something like that.
I won't be happy until they gives us all the details that are claimed by the "innocent father".

Remember Jane takes two walks back to the apartment that night, and Jez seems to have this tendency to take convoluted walks at night maybe it is Jane seeing him on the second visit, and that being the reason Jez and Gerry don't see her pass them on Jane's earlier visit to the apartment.

Sorry about that but that was the first time I've said that. Still a bit raw.  I hope you understand this never before spoken proposal.
https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=980 Hit this link to go straight to the relevant section.

But I think there is a big mistake in this proposal as at this point the information is that the daughter being picked up by innocent man was only 2 years old.  From what I remember from previous discussions was that the pyjamas shown as supposedly the ones worn that night seemed too big for a 3 year old and now more so for a two year old.

https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=1300 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1015 on: September 15, 2017, 06:03:15 AM »
The compere " So what you are saying is the timeline we've been working on for years is wrong"  Not just who it could be but the timeline as well.  Did I get that right?

I would love to see the OG timeline.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1016 on: September 15, 2017, 06:10:21 AM »
Does Goncalo Amaral say anything about the two e-fits produced for the one man?

He certainly says a lot of things that I'm sure are not in the file released as part of the archiving process.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1017 on: September 15, 2017, 06:44:02 AM »
Is he saying the secreting of the cadaver into the coffin in the church didn't happen until mid July?
https://youtu.be/tUHp85TyJ0Y?t=3194

I'm sure that is what he is saying so the McCanns in his theory hid the body  right up to mid -July.  There is no proof that these "Three people" were associated with the McCanns. 

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1018 on: September 15, 2017, 05:42:18 PM »
Thankyou Rob

I also seem to remember, along with this and Stephen Carpenters statement about cars being along the road that a man, whose name evades me, was sleeping inhis van along that stretch of road.  Was he a musician?  I cant remember.

And a girl who was visiting her boyfriend, noted IIRC some cars along there.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1019 on: September 15, 2017, 06:04:54 PM »
Is he saying the secreting of the cadaver into the coffin in the church didn't happen until mid July?
https://youtu.be/tUHp85TyJ0Y?t=3194

I'm sure that is what he is saying so the McCanns in his theory hid the body  right up to mid -July.  There is no proof that these "Three people" were associated with the McCanns.

"in the month of July 2007, I began to notice a strange odour in the car." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/A-J-CAMERON.htm

The open boot witness was also July 2007.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.