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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1020 on: September 15, 2017, 06:39:08 PM »
Thankyou Rob

I also seem to remember, along with this and Stephen Carpenters statement about cars being along the road that a man, whose name evades me, was sleeping inhis van along that stretch of road.  Was he a musician?  I cant remember.

And a girl who was visiting her boyfriend, noted IIRC some cars along there.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
There was someone like that mentioned in the file IIRC.  I am noticing there are some witnesses that hardly ever get a mention and hence are quite unknown and harder to memorise IMO.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1021 on: September 15, 2017, 06:55:27 PM »
There was someone like that mentioned in the file IIRC.  I am noticing there are some witnesses that hardly ever get a mention and hence are quite unknown and harder to memorise IMO.

Barrington Norton slept in his van on the mound.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BARRINGTON_NORTON.htm
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1022 on: September 15, 2017, 09:51:22 PM »
Barrington Norton slept in his van on the mound.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BARRINGTON_NORTON.htm

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8441-witness-statement-barrington-godfrey-norton  2007.05.08.


At about 20.00 he would have dinner in the Penini Restaurant or another international restaurant nearby, both in P da L, or go to the Baptista supermarket in the OC.

Then he would eat his food in a P da L parking area.


and,

When asked if he would regularly to the OC resort, he replied that he did, adding that he often went to the Baptista supermarket in the resort.

He mentioned that, during the previous week, he cannot remember the exact days or times, he went to the resort another three times, for different reasons than those mentioned previously, once to hand in his CV and the other two times, to be with friends who were on holiday there.


and

When asked where he would park, he said he would generally park near the Baptista supermarket.
When asked if he had ever parked in the street next to the apartment Madeleine had disappeared from, he replied that he had once, as far as he remembers, after her disappearance, that apartment being near to the Baptista supermarket.



I want to make it clear that I do not suspect Barrington of anything ... BUT his van could have been parked near the alleyway and Gerry and Jez could have been chatting away at the side of it and it might have cast a mighty shadow over the alleyway entrance where Jane walked past.  Not likely but a possibility that should lie on the table.  IMO

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1023 on: September 15, 2017, 10:13:01 PM »
http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8441-witness-statement-barrington-godfrey-norton  2007.05.08.


At about 20.00 he would have dinner in the Penini Restaurant or another international restaurant nearby, both in P da L, or go to the Baptista supermarket in the OC.

Then he would eat his food in a P da L parking area.


and,

When asked if he would regularly to the OC resort, he replied that he did, adding that he often went to the Baptista supermarket in the resort.

He mentioned that, during the previous week, he cannot remember the exact days or times, he went to the resort another three times, for different reasons than those mentioned previously, once to hand in his CV and the other two times, to be with friends who were on holiday there.


and

When asked where he would park, he said he would generally park near the Baptista supermarket.
When asked if he had ever parked in the street next to the apartment Madeleine had disappeared from, he replied that he had once, as far as he remembers, after her disappearance, that apartment being near to the Baptista supermarket.



I want to make it clear that I do not suspect Barrington of anything ... BUT his van could have been parked near the alleyway and Gerry and Jez could have been chatting away at the side of it and it might have cast a mighty shadow over the alleyway entrance where Jane walked past.  Not likely but a possibility that should lie on the table.  IMO

Highly unlikely as no witnesses reported it.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1024 on: September 15, 2017, 10:20:19 PM »
http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8441-witness-statement-barrington-godfrey-norton  2007.05.08.


At about 20.00 he would have dinner in the Penini Restaurant or another international restaurant nearby, both in P da L, or go to the Baptista supermarket in the OC.

Then he would eat his food in a P da L parking area.


and,

When asked if he would regularly to the OC resort, he replied that he did, adding that he often went to the Baptista supermarket in the resort.

He mentioned that, during the previous week, he cannot remember the exact days or times, he went to the resort another three times, for different reasons than those mentioned previously, once to hand in his CV and the other two times, to be with friends who were on holiday there.


and

When asked where he would park, he said he would generally park near the Baptista supermarket.
When asked if he had ever parked in the street next to the apartment Madeleine had disappeared from, he replied that he had once, as far as he remembers, after her disappearance, that apartment being near to the Baptista supermarket.



I want to make it clear that I do not suspect Barrington of anything ... BUT his van could have been parked near the alleyway and Gerry and Jez could have been chatting away at the side of it and it might have cast a mighty shadow over the alleyway entrance where Jane walked past.  Not likely but a possibility that should lie on the table.  IMO

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1025 on: September 15, 2017, 10:28:53 PM »
If ifs and buts were beer and nuts we'd have ourselves a party.

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« Reply #1026 on: September 15, 2017, 10:30:09 PM »
More pertinent than that I think is why none of the nannies on duty at the creche that night recognised the description of a man who had picked up his daughter from them or remembered caring for a little girl with frilly-bottomed pyjamas.

Yes both interesting questions. Makes you wonder why Redwood was so keen on eliminating Tannerman, even when it raised more questions than it answered?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1027 on: September 15, 2017, 10:32:28 PM »
More pertinent than that I think is why none of the nannies on duty at the creche that night recognised the description of a man who had picked up his daughter from them or remembered caring for a little girl with frilly-bottomed pyjamas.
How come I hadn't thought of that?  Very good, but so many years later who would remember?
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Offline barrier

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1028 on: September 15, 2017, 10:37:49 PM »
More pertinent than that I think is why none of the nannies on duty at the creche that night recognised the description of a man who had picked up his daughter from them or remembered caring for a little girl with frilly-bottomed pyjamas.

Did Redwood actually say he had picked the child up from the crèche? or did he just intimate it by saying it was a guest at the ocean club.
Here Redwood just says it was a British Holiday maker returning to their apartment through the same area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24528530
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1029 on: September 15, 2017, 10:41:19 PM »
Did Redwood actually say he had picked the child up from the crèche? or did he just intimate it by saying it was a guest at the ocean club.
He talks about how many families had used the night creche that night.  So yes he does imply that he was coming back from night creche.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1030 on: September 15, 2017, 10:41:30 PM »
Revelation moment.

https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=1300


"He was walking near the McCanns apartment"


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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1031 on: September 15, 2017, 10:45:52 PM »
Revelation moment.

https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=1300
The actual words are the reporters but you'd think it was vetted by Andy Redwood from the OG team.
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1032 on: September 15, 2017, 10:46:20 PM »
He talks about how many families had used the night creche that night.  So yes he does imply that he was coming back from night creche.

Implying and actually saying it are two different things.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1033 on: September 15, 2017, 10:49:23 PM »
"The British father had collected his 2 year old daughter from the creche.

He had been walking near the McCanns appartment"


Note that Redwood didn't state this, this claim was made by the same BBC presenter who informed us that the McCanns had been "formally cleared".
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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1034 on: September 15, 2017, 10:51:20 PM »
"The British father had collected his 2 year old daughter from the creche.

He had been walking near the McCanns appartment"


Note that Redwood didn't state this, this claim was made by the same BBC presenter who informed us that the McCanns had been "formally cleared".

Which was totally different to what Redwood said in the link I posted.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24528530
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