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Offline G-Unit

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #135 on: June 22, 2017, 02:06:47 PM »
Anything Amaral knows should be contained within the Portuguese case files - the same files the current team are using to not investigate the McCanns & their friends, IMHO. If not, he must be guilty of withholding evidence.

Do you think policemen never overhear conversations or get told something off the record? The Tapas staff, for example, said things in conversation with the police that didn't appear in their formal statements.

Conversation;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS-EMPLOYEES.htm

Compare with these statements;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SVETLANA_VITORINO.htm

They both mention a man leaving the restaurant for 30 minutes in their conversations, but not in their statements.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #136 on: June 22, 2017, 02:09:52 PM »
Do you think policemen never overhear conversations or get told something off the record? The Tapas staff, for example, said things in conversation with the police that didn't appear in their formal statements.

Conversation;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS-EMPLOYEES.htm

Compare with these statements;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SVETLANA_VITORINO.htm

They both mention a man leaving the restaurant for 30 minutes in their conversations, but not in their statements.

Amaral claimed in the documentary he would prove laddie died in the apartment
He presented the evidence he thought proved it
It didnt
So does he simply does not understand the evidence and the proof of that is the documentary

Offline G-Unit

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #137 on: June 22, 2017, 02:13:34 PM »
What other explanation could there be
His conclusion s don't fit the evidence
He states them as fact
If he is not deliberately  saying something  that's false then he must believe something that is false

That your opinion is wrong?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #138 on: June 22, 2017, 02:15:24 PM »
That your opinion is wrong?
Then give me another explanation

You cannot
Therefore  I must be right

He either believes it or he doesnt
That's it

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #139 on: June 22, 2017, 02:27:33 PM »
You can be very sure that Amaral knows much more than he is prepared to make public.

No you cannot be very sure at all
More opinion  based as fact

What is a fact is he doesn't even understand  the evidence in the files

Offline G-Unit

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #140 on: June 22, 2017, 02:35:34 PM »
No you cannot be very sure at all
More opinion  based as fact

What is a fact is he doesn't even understand  the evidence in the files

What is a fact is that in your opinion he doesn't understand the evidence in the files. In my opinion you don't understand the evidence in the files.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #141 on: June 22, 2017, 03:03:39 PM »
It isn't my opinion
He doesn't understand the evidence in the files
That is a fact not opinion
If you cannot see that then you don't understand the evidence in the files
And that is also a fact

What does seem to be a fact is that you think you appear to think you are the expert on evidence and on the files. Would that be the PJ files you are referring to? Containing non verbatim statements taken by allegedly unreliable interpreters? Statements which have been twice translated?

Of course Amaral was able read and understood most of them in his own language.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #142 on: June 22, 2017, 03:18:03 PM »
What does seem to be a fact is that you think you appear to think you are the expert on evidence and on the files. Would that be the PJ files you are referring to? Containing non verbatim statements taken by allegedly unreliable interpreters? Statements which have been twice translated?

Of course Amaral was able read and understood most of them in his own language.
You are avoiding the point for which you have no answer
Amaral claimed he could prove Maddie died in the apartment
He couldn't
He was wrong
What is the explanation for him.being so out of touch
Try and answer the post
The point is you cannot

A detective
Revered by so many sceptics
Simply did not understand the basics

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #143 on: June 22, 2017, 03:24:26 PM »
What does seem to be a fact is that you think you appear to think you are the expert on evidence and on the files. Would that be the PJ files you are referring to? Containing non verbatim statements taken by allegedly unreliable interpreters? Statements which have been twice translated?

Of course Amaral was able read and understood most of them in his own language.

Amaral read what was in Portuguese
The McCanns gave their statements in English
He had no access to their original statements as we dont

Offline Brietta

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #144 on: June 22, 2017, 03:25:09 PM »
A classic example of a genetic fallacy.

Perhaps even a rhetorical one.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #145 on: June 22, 2017, 03:29:55 PM »
What does seem to be a fact is that you think you appear to think you are the expert on evidence and on the files. Would that be the PJ files you are referring to? Containing non verbatim statements taken by allegedly unreliable interpreters? Statements which have been twice translated?

Of course Amaral was able read and understood most of them in his own language.

You are now claiming to know what I think
More than a tad ridiculous
Opinion as fact and par for the course

stephen25000

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Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #146 on: June 22, 2017, 03:32:43 PM »
You are avoiding the point for which you have no answer
Amaral claimed he could prove Maddie died in the apartment
He couldn't
He was wrong
What is the explanation for him.being so out of touch
Try and answer the post
The point is you cannot

A detective
Revered by so many sceptics
Simply did not understand the basics

As a reminder, none of the current theories prevalent have been proved or disproved.

We have no way of knowing what other information, if any, Amaral had access to.

stephen25000

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Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #147 on: June 22, 2017, 03:34:06 PM »
You are now claiming to know what I think
More than a tad ridiculous
Opinion as fact and par for the course

People have their opinions on here Dave, just as you do.

I hope you are not trying to imply yours is more important than others.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #148 on: June 22, 2017, 04:50:50 PM »
People have their opinions on here Dave, just as you do.

I hope you are not trying to imply yours is more important than others.
Gun it is implying she knows what I think
On that topic I know and she doesnt

stephen25000

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Re: Was it Tuesday or Wednesday night?
« Reply #149 on: June 22, 2017, 04:53:04 PM »
Gun it is implying she knows what I think
On that topic I know and she doesnt

You as we all do, give our views on the case.

No more, and certainly, no less.