its the end of the road no European Court amaral has not been silenced

[sadie]

They obviously care more for their reputations because that is where the money has gone recently in an attempt to salvage it.  Didn't Isabel Duarte do well out of her failure to bring Amaral down?

The Mccanns aim is to find Madeleine.

If their reputation is rubbished and dreadful lies and disinformation are being put about  then they risk losing their support.   Support that is necessary for the search

Of course you must know this Angelo, you are just stirring things.

[Brietta]

Being no further forward, if fact some would say in a worse position, than at the beginning of their litigation must be galling indeed for the McCanns. Tens of thousands of pounds, that could have been used to actually search for their daughter, wasted with absolutely nothing to show for it.

They have got a full blown investigation off the ground into the disappearance of their daughter ... can you suggest better way to search for Madeleine than having the Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard carrying out  that much needed diligence?

Madeleine is a little girl lost for whom no-one was looking.  Amaral strained every sinew to convince that she was dead.

There is absolutely not one shred of proof to support that assertion ... so why on earth make it?

[sadie]

They obviously care more for their reputations because that is where the money has gone recently in an attempt to salvage it.  Didn't Isabel Duarte do well out of her failure to bring Amaral down?

They care about finding Madeleine. 

Given falsely bad reputations will affect their seach for Madeleine, because this will cause some people to withdraw their support. 



AIMHO

[Brietta]

They obviously care more for their reputations because that is where the money has gone recently in an attempt to salvage it.  Didn't Isabel Duarte do well out of her failure to bring Amaral down?

Angelo, it is my opinion that Amaral is already "down".  The process started with the reviews in Britain and Portugal into Madeleine McCann's case.

[Angelo222]

Angelo, it is my opinion that Amaral is already "down".  The process started with the reviews in Britain and Portugal into Madeleine McCann's case.

Amaral's only criminal misdemeanor was to try and protect the officers under him.  That is the extent of his one and only crime.  And since you mention it, who's Fund paid the crooked Spanish PI's who attempted to destroy Amaral?  An investigation into that affair would be worth every penny.

[Brietta]

Amaral's only criminal misdemeanor was to try and protect the officers under him.  That is the extent of his one and only crime.

On his watch the officers under him tortured a woman ... falsifying documents to hide that is reprehensible as well as being criminal.

[stephen25000]

On his watch the officers under him tortured a woman ... falsifying documents to hide that is reprehensible as well as being criminal.

Which officers were convicted ?

[Eleanor]

Which officers were convicted ?

Erm, Amaral, and that other one whose name I've forgotten.

[stephen25000]

Erm, Amaral, and that other one whose name I've forgotten.

Not for torture Eleanor.

[G-Unit]

On his watch the officers under him tortured a woman ... falsifying documents to hide that is reprehensible as well as being criminal.

So what? Whatever else he may or may not have done he didn't libel the McCanns, which is what they finally seem to have accepted.

[Eleanor]

I actually don't care what Amaral did or didn't do or say; only the McCanns and their followers think it's important. What he isn't is a libeller.

Certainly a Perjurer.  That wasn't very nice.

[Montclair]

Somebody tortured her.  The Portuguese Court agreed on that.  Amaral and his Oppo covered it up.  That sounds like a Conspiracy to me.

No investigation was ever carried out to find out who allegedly tortured her and she was convicted of perjury. Some believe that she was beaten up in prison by fellow prisoners.

[Eleanor]

No investigation was ever carried out to find out who allegedly tortured her and she was convicted of perjury. Some believe that she was beaten up in prison by fellow prisoners.

The Portuguese Court agreed that she was tortured while in the custody of PJ Officers.

The PJ failed to carry out an Investigation into which PJ Officers did this.

[stephen25000]

The Portuguese Court agreed that she was tortured while in the custody of PJ Officers.

The PJ failed to carry out an Investigation into which PJ Officers did this.

Yet the Portuguese Court couldn't prove that.

As Montclair says, there are accounts that fellow prisoners beat her up.

[Brietta]

No investigation was ever carried out to find out who allegedly tortured her and she was convicted of perjury. Some believe that she was beaten up in prison by fellow prisoners.

I believe that as a result of having a bag over her head she could not see the officers who were beating her and therefore could not identify them, she did attest to Amaral's presence so he did know what was going on whether or not he took part physically.  His presence condoned.

The court however decided she had been tortured ... hence Amaral's conviction for perjury.

Why the outcome for her was an addition to her sentence is perhaps just another vagary of Portuguese justice. 

Some have lied that she was beaten elsewhere ... fortunately the prison governor dealt with that particular calumny in an effective manner which totally refuted the allegation.

Neither in Joana's case nor in Madeleine's case could it be said either was his finest hour.