Is absence of evidence.... evidence of innocence

[John]

Scotland sounds worryingly like Portugal.

It is worse in some aspects.  I don't want to go off topic but have a look at the number of foreign workers and students who have been murdered in Scotland over recent years and you get a sense of the problem.

[Mr Gray]

Some interesting views but can we please restrict them to the topic under discussion.

Someone asked earlier how an innocent person can be convicted of a crime.  Actually it is quite easy given certain circumstances. In my own case the facts were manipulated and twisted by a rogue prosecutor.  Allegations were invented in order to support an otherwise weak case. Weak and incompetent defence lawyers failed to bring key witnesses to court despite them being notified. Add to this a system which allows simple majority verdicts and you have the pitiful consequence that eight people can convict even though seven voted not guilty. This is what passes for justice in Scotland my friends!

I think John its mccann supporters who are concerned about innocents being found guilty and sceptics who naively think if you are innocent you have nothing to fear. thats why Kate was advised to answer no more questions...we have seen proof of amaral twisting the facts on the video on this site

[G-Unit]

So an acquittal means nothing as regards evidence of innocence
Could you therefore explain how the McCann's would have been able to prove their innocence to the satisfaction of the archiving process and the supreme court

They didn't have to. They never ceased to be entitled to the presumption of innocence before the law. The PJ suspected them but were unable to gather the evidence needed to prosecute them.

[sadie]

They didn't have to. They never ceased to be entitled to the presumption of innocence before the law. The PJ suspected them but were unable to gather the evidence needed to prosecute them.

An innocent party will leave NO EVIDENCE, so there will be no evidence to be found.

According to S.Y. Chief, Assistant CommissionerRowley they are innocent.
No wonder Amaral couldn't gather evidence to convict them !   


But he tried his hardest

[Mr Gray]

Kate was advised not to answer the questions by her lawyer.

[stephen25000]

A QUESTION SHE DID ANSWER

Q.  Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardising the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?

A.  'Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.'

[Mr Gray]

A QUESTION SHE DID ANSWER

Q.  Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardising the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?

A.  'Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.'

weve all seen that a million times and discussed it...she was absolutely right not to answer those questions having already answerring 19 hours of questions

[stephen25000]

weve all seen that a million times and discussed it...she was absolutely right not to answer those questions having already answerring 19 hours of questions

IYO and your fellows , not mine.

[Brietta]

A QUESTION SHE DID ANSWER

Q.  Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardising the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?

A.  'Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.'

43- In the case files you were forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

44- When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

45- When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

46- When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

47- When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?


She had already answered all the questions asked by the PJ during the marathon questioning session lasting many hours the previous day.

How could she be expected to know what was in the FSS report ... she hadn't seen it.  When Gerry asked to have sight of the DNA evidence ... he was refused.
Could that possibly have been that as a result of his medical training he would have understood it?

[slartibartfast]

43- In the case files you were forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

44- When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

45- When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

46- When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

47- When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?


She had already answered all the questions asked by the PJ during the marathon questioning session lasting many hours the previous day.

How could she be expected to know what was in the FSS report ... she hadn't seen it.  When Gerry asked to have sight of the DNA evidence ... he was refused.
Could that possibly have been that as a result of his medical training he would have understood it?

You wonder why she didn't just answer yes?

[Mr Gray]

You wonder why she didn't just answer yes?

because she had been advised not to answer any questions...simple

let me explain...imo...by now the pj were simply trying to wear kate down. If she had answerred these there would ahve been 48 more...the only way to put a stop to the pjs tactic was the right to silence

[slartibartfast]

because she had been advised not to answer any questions...simple

So, question 44, why not say yes?

[Mr Gray]

So, question 44, why not say yes?

because she ahd been advised not to answer any questions...simple

[slartibartfast]

because she ahd been advised not to answer any questions...simple

Bad advice as has dogged them throughout this case IMO.

[stephen25000]

because she ahd been advised not to answer any questions...simple

What did she have to fear ?