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stephen25000

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Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #60 on: August 08, 2017, 07:03:32 AM »
I am tired so I will just tackle number 6.

It was known that the police warned Kate and Gerry not to show emotion cos this would give the perp a "kick".

How very brave both Kate and Gerry were facing all those cameras.  At the time Kate was frightened of the media, but she steeled herself to face them and do everything she could to find Madeleine.

What perp ?

No such person has been found to exist.

It is pure speculation.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #61 on: August 08, 2017, 08:09:30 AM »
What perp ?

No such person has been found to exist.

It is pure speculation.
They weren't to know that the investigation would come up empty handed.
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stephen25000

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Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #62 on: August 08, 2017, 08:26:07 AM »
They weren't to know that the investigation would come up empty handed.

Tell me Rob, how do you find someone who hasn't even been determined to exist ?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2017, 08:38:32 AM »
Tell me Rob, how do you find someone who hasn't even been determined to exist ?

They certainly won't be found if no one looks.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2017, 08:56:04 AM »
I am tired so I will just tackle number 6.

It was known that the police warned Kate and Gerry not to show emotion cos this would give the perp a "kick".

How very brave both Kate and Gerry were facing all those cameras.  At the time Kate was frightened of the media, but she steeled herself to face them and do everything she could to find Madeleine.

Can you cite for "It was known..."
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #65 on: August 08, 2017, 09:00:32 AM »
They certainly won't be found if no one looks.

They have Eleanor.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2017, 09:09:13 AM »
They have Eleanor.

Not hard enough, Stephen.  Actually, mainly not at all for a live child.  But the fact that they have never found a dead one should give everyone pause for thought.

stephen25000

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Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2017, 10:13:28 AM »
Not hard enough, Stephen.  Actually, mainly not at all for a live child.  But the fact that they have never found a dead one should give everyone pause for thought.


Then we will have to agree to differ Eleanor.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2017, 10:14:52 AM »

Then we will have to agree to differ Eleanor.

We usually do, Stephen.

stephen25000

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Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2017, 10:19:11 AM »
We usually do, Stephen.

Indeed. However, we can disagree amicably.

Offline Brietta

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2017, 10:23:59 AM »
Can you cite for "It was known..."

I know it as I am sure you do too ... if you pretend to know anything at all about Madeleine McCann's case. 

If a cite is truly required to substantiate a statement or phrase in a conversation, fair enough.  However there are some things which are "common knowledge" which can surely be sensibly allowed to enable the discussion to flow.

For example if I say in a sentence: " ... perhaps the man Jane saw carrying a child ..." do I really need to add http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

If so that's fine by me ... but it is certainly going to have to be implemented across the board by members ... and monitored or controlled (whichever takes your fancy) consistently and with fairness ... by forum monitors.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #71 on: August 08, 2017, 10:25:22 AM »
Indeed. However, we can disagree amicably.

This is notable about you and me, so it can be done.

Offline Brietta

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #72 on: August 08, 2017, 10:30:12 AM »
Can you cite for "It was known..."

Took me and Google appx. 30 seconds to come up with ...

Snip
In a separate interview, Kate explained why she had appeared cold in televised appeals at the time of her daughter's disappearance. 'Behavioural experts advised me not to show emotion in case the abductor got a kick from it,' she said. 'It's only recently, with the anniversary, that they've started showing footage from the early days. I don't recognise the person they asked me to be at that time, but to all the people out there who criticised me I say, would they want to swap places, really?'
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/may/04/madeleinemccann.ukcrime

Certainly well worth trying a search engine when in doubt sometimes.  If it can't be found ... that is when a cite may be required.  In My Opinion.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2017, 10:35:19 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #73 on: August 08, 2017, 10:55:03 AM »
Tell me Rob, how do you find someone who hasn't even been determined to exist ?
The only way to find out is to look.

You must look as if that someone does exist even when you don't know who it is.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2017, 11:01:27 AM by Robittybob1 »
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stephen25000

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Re: Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...
« Reply #74 on: August 08, 2017, 11:11:49 AM »
The only way to find out is to look.

You must look as if that someone does exist even when you don't know who it is.

If they existed.

I don't believe they, singular or plural, did.

What has 10 plus years of worldwide publicity achieved in finding this person(s) whose existence has not been proven ?