Jeremy Bamber - The alleged telephone calls to police

[adam]

The CT need to say why Nevill would ring the sixth furthest away police station. Which was over 21 miles away.

Bamber eventually said he did because he 'didn't think it would make any difference to how quickly the police arrived'. I can't say that's the strangest reason ever for such a decision. As no one had ever made this decision before.

Surely Nevill would not have had the same reason.

But as said, this is properganda to create maximum publicity prior to the TV series. As recently said there is unlikely to be another CCRC application, if there is it needs to be going for a technicality.

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@MarkNewbyqsj
 and
@tru68
After 33 years this is a huge step forward. Thanks for everything you are doing for this man, who has had a complete character assassination done on him, meaning if one stands up for him, one is likely to be maligned and shot down.
#StandAgainstInjustice
11:16 AM · Oct 19, 2019·Twitter for iPad
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185499875695300608

Mark Newby claimed in 2015 re Barry George/compensation

“Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.

The above is an example of Mark Newby’s interpretation of why Barry George wasn’t compensated

And re his latest interpretation:

Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”

[Nicholas]

Mark Newby claimed in 2015 re Barry George/compensation

“Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.

The above is an example of Mark Newby’s interpretation of why Barry George wasn’t compensated

And re his latest interpretation:

Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”

Mark Newby also stated in 2015:

“Of course the fundamental problem with a system that never admits mistakes is that it is in a downward spiral – organisations that cannot admit fault in the end will become failing organisations.

and

“The CCRC remains under funded, delays are wholly unacceptable and there remains a lack of dialogue and accountability for CCRC decisions”


”Accountability for CCRC decisions

Will be interesting to see if Mark Newby, the CCRC or a n other answer the following:

Has anyone imagined the consequences if the COA had overturned Simon Hall’s conviction for murder following the CCRC’s referral in 2009?

How many murder convictions have been overturned on “technicalities” as opposed to factual innocence?

[Nicholas]

Mark Newby claimed in 2015 re Barry George/compensation

“Barry George could not achieve compensation because his case went all the way to re-trial and therefore the Court was able to conclude that there was evidence for a properly directed jury to consider.

The above is an example of Mark Newby’s interpretation of why Barry George wasn’t compensated

And re his latest interpretation:

Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”

”In May this year, Bamber’s lawyer Mark Newby received a letter from Frank Ferguson, head of special crimes at the CPS. He had written to the prosecutors’ office on the issue of two silencers being examined in the case but the jury only being told about one.
Although Ferguson stated “there is no documentary evidence either provided or referred to which supports the existence of a second silencer”, he added: “Any evidence that suggests that there was or may have been another silencer for the rifle would raise the possibility that the other silencer was used during the shooting and not the one alleged by the prosecution.

“Such a possibility would significantly undermine the case against JB [Jeremy Bamber] and any material supporting such a possibility would plainly be material which casts doubt on the safety of the conviction.”

Now Bamber believes he has the evidence to undermine the case against him. Writing to the Guardian from Wakefield prison, Bamber said: “The report in the hands of the CPS proves with absolute certainty that this case featured two silencers. And now the CPS must act. There are moments in life when the truth can no longer be suppressed and this is one of those times.”
Newby, a solicitor advocate from Quality Solicitors Jordans, said: “I hope this report will persuade the CPS to now authorise the handing over of all the undisclosed material still held by Essex police in this case.”
A spokesperson for the CPS said: “We have received correspondence relating to this case and requested additional material in order to respond to the points raised.”
An Essex Police spokesperson said: “Essex Police has no comment to make on these claims given that Jeremy Bamber’s conviction has been the subject of several appeals and reviews by the Criminal Cases Review Commission and there has never been anything to suggest that he was wrongly convicted.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/21/scientists-report-casts-doubt-on-jeremy-bamber-trial-evidence?__twitter_impression=true


Simon Hall was found guilty and convicted to life on the basis of the prosecutions argument being he murdered his victim following a burglary gone wrong. However it turned out this interpretation and indeed flawed argument was not the motivating factor for why he chose to murder and there was/is evidence to support the fact the murder was sexually motivated.

So when Mark Newby claims, “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged,” in the Bamber case he really ought to consider the Hall case imo.

Do Jeremy Bamber supporters really believe his full life tariff will be overturned on technicalities like the above?

[Nicholas]

Here we go again, it must be getting near to Christmas?

Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars

EXCLUSIVE The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985.

By Matthew Young
Published 18 October 2019

Mass murderer Jeremy Bamber claims he has unearthed phone call evidence that could set him free, 33 years after he was jailed for slaughtering his family.

Bamber, 58, has found a phone log he says proves he did not shoot parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas in August 1985.

Bamber is serving a full life tariff for the massacre at White House Farm in Essex.

His legal team say a police record referring to a call made by Bamber on the night of the White House Farm massacre in 1985 proves he was not there at the time and could form the basis of an appeal.

They say it backs up the theory that Bamber’s sister Sheila Caffell, 26, murdered their parents Nevill and June, both 61, then shot her own sons, twins Nicholas and Daniel, six, before killing herself.

Bamber’s lawyer Mark Newby said: “The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”

The phone call evidence forms one element of a huge bundle Bamber’s team will soon submit to the Criminal Case Review Commission.

The previously unseen police document appears to back up Bamber’s story that two calls were made to police on the night of the murders, one from his father and one from him after Nevill rang saying Sheila had “gone crazy”.

At his trial, the prosecution said only one call was made to police – from Jeremy Bamber at 3.26am from the crime scene, White House Farm in Tolleshunt D’Arcy, Essex. But the new document describes a call to police from Jeremy Bamber timed at “approx 3.37am”.

His legal team argue it shows Bamber could not have made the 3.26am call from the farm and returned to his home 3.5 miles away in Goldhanger to make the second call.

The “3.37am” note came from an interview with a PC Myall, of Essex Police, during the Dickinson Inquiry into the force’s handling of the case after Bamber’s conviction in November 1986.

The note was found by Bamber among thousands of police documents released to him in 2011.

PC Myall is noted as telling Dickinson: “We received a telephone call at the P.Stn (Police Station, Witham).

"The officer (PC West) at CD Control (Chelmsford) was on the phone and told us that he was relating information to us and still had the informant (Jeremy Bamber) on the other telephone.”

The trial judge had instructed the jury to disregard Bamber’s claims that he had called police from his home at 3.36am.

And prosecutors told the trial Bamber had invented the call from Nevill to lay the blame on schizophrenic Sheila, known as Bambi when she worked as a model.

Bamber was convicted by a 10-2 majority of murdering his family to claim a £436,000 inheritance.

He was initially sentenced to five life sentences, to serve a minimum 25 years, but that was increased to a whole life tariff in 1994.

The Mirror revealed in 2010 how lost phone logs showed it was Nevill who called police at 3.26am.

A further record submitted to the Criminal Case Review Commission in 2010 showed a 3.36am call to police from Jeremy Bamber.

But the CCRC ruled the 3.36am call was noted in error and that there was just one call, from Jeremy not Nevill, made at 3.26am from White House Farm scene.

The new “3.37am” note is said to prove the existence of the second call.

ITV last week announced a drama about the murders next year, with Freddie Fox as Bamber, who is in Wakefield jail, West Yorkshire.

Bamber was famously pictured with girlfriend Julie Mugford, 21, struggling to contain his grief walking behind his parents’ coffins at their funeral.

After Julie found he had cheated on her, she told police Bamber had talked of hiring a hitman to kill his parents.

A blood-stained silencer was also found at the farm by Bamber’s cousin.

Bamber’s team say they now have evidence of two silencers examined by police, both believed to contain blood that could belong to Sheila or now-deceased cousin Robert Boutflour.

They say a forensic report has been given to the CPS about this evidence. Bamber believes police always had evidence that would have cleared him, but failed to disclose it at his trial, his first appeal in 1989 or second in 2002.

Between 2004 and 2011, Bamber made three CCRC submissions in a failed attempt to get his case back to the Court of Appeal. He has also made appeals against his whole life tariff.

Essex Police said: “There has never been anything to suggest that he was wrongly convicted.” But Bamber’s lawyer is now hopeful of a new appeal.

Mr Newby said: “The phone call information is consistent with what Jeremy Bamber always said. It is part of a package of evidence that should lead to a positive review for Jeremy.

“It’s fair to say when we go back to the CCRC we will have a pretty strong package which we hope they will refer to the Court of Appeal. We hope we will get it across the line.

“If we do, it is probably this country’s greatest ever miscarriage of justice.”

The case against
The prosecution said Bamber, then 24, had cycled to White House Farm and got in via an insecure window before murdering his family.

Girlfriend Julie Mugford said Bamber had planned the killings and had phoned her, saying: “Tonight’s the night.”

A silencer found three days later had Sheila’s blood inside. Prosecutors said she could hardly have put it back in the cupboard if she had lready killed herself with it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305

https://mobile.twitter.com/jbcampaignltd/status/1185511049107312642

Does Mark Newby think the CCRC would accept a similar type “package” re the Simon Hall case and refer his conviction to the COA posthumously?

[Nicholas]

Mark Newby also stated in 2015:

“Of course the fundamental problem with a system that never admits mistakes is that it is in a downward spiral – organisations that cannot admit fault in the end will become failing organisations.

Sandra Lean stated; “There were discussions about possible revisions which would, of necessity, have taken a great deal of time and effort time and effort that I was not capable of devoting to the matter at that time”

What a mess

[Nicholas]

Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
The Mirror Front Page

Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985
mirror.co.uk

William Beck
@WullieBeck
1h
This is one of the most disturbing miscarriages of just we have ever seen.
Time all the evidence was released to his defence team to allow justice to be seen to be done.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185499875695300608


Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
anotherview
@anotherview16
This needs to be thoroughly re investigated - too much evidence withheld by the police and prosecution at the trial to make this a safe conviction, without complete reinvestigation. Mistakes like this have happened too often before
https://mobile.twitter.com/anotherview16/status/1185164298290634752

Was the Simon Hall case “a safe conviction?”

[Nicholas]

Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
The Mirror Front Page

Jeremy Bamber's 'new evidence' that could free him after 33 years behind bars
The mass killer was jailed for shooting parents Nevill and June, model sister Sheila “Bambi” Caffell, and her six-year-old twin sons Daniel and Nicholas at White House Farm, Essex, in August 1985
mirror.co.uk

William Beck
@WullieBeck
1h
This is one of the most disturbing miscarriages of just we have ever seen.
Time all the evidence was released to his defence team to allow justice to be seen to be done.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1185499875695300608


Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
anotherview
@anotherview16
This needs to be thoroughly re investigated - too much evidence withheld by the police and prosecution at the trial to make this a safe conviction, without complete reinvestigation. Mistakes like this have happened too often before
https://mobile.twitter.com/anotherview16/status/1185164298290634752

Was the Simon Hall case “a safe conviction?”

Many con artists have featured on the front page of the Mirror

[Caroline]

It's complete horseshit and I have a document from Bamber obviously knocked up by the CT arguing the complete opposite!

[Nicholas]

It's complete horseshit and I have a document from Bamber obviously knocked up by the CT arguing the complete opposite!

No amount of intellectual dishonesty will see Bamber’s convictions appealed nor indeed over turned!

[Caroline]

No amount of intellectual dishonesty will see Bamber’s convictions appealed nor indeed over turned!

This sin't even intellectual! Total publicity stunt!

[Nicholas]

Michael Naughton is attempting to “Empower the innocent”

Trudi Benjamin is retweeting Patron Peter Tatchell, who one of Luke Mitchell’s main supporters Scott Forbes refers to as a “peodophile”
then there was this from last November https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374467/Peter-Tatchell-forced-deny-advocating-paedophilia-1997-letter.html


Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Peter Tatchell
@PeterTatchell
3h
Another miscarriage of justice? #JeremyBamber's 'new evidence' could free him after 33 years behind bars. Essex police accused of withholding evidence that may cast doubt on the safety of his conviction: https://mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar… FOLLOW
@JeremyBamber
@jbcampaignltd
@Bambertweets

She’s also retweeting in support of Tom Watson

Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Tom Watson
@tom_watson
·
2h
Johnson must comply with the law. His deal will make us poorer and degrade environmental and workers’ rights. He cannot force this through by threatening a disastrous No Deal. The only way to finally and fairly resolve this and bring the country together is through a #PeoplesVote


and indeed Keri Starmer


Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
7h
Five reasons to #VoteTheDealDown

❌ Rules out a Customs Union

❌ Rejects a close Single Market relationship

❌ Risks a no deal crash out at the end of 2020

❌ Does not address concerns about security and cooperation

❌ You can’t trust Boris Johnson

Of course she can tweet and retweet till her hearts content but her views aren’t going down too well by those people with opposing views, especially those who followed the Carl Beech case.

I suspect many individuals, especially those who are fighting and campaigning for alleged false allegations of HSA see someone like Trudi Benjamin as out of touch.

[Nicholas]

This sin't even intellectual! Total publicity stunt!

....propaganda as Adam has already pointed out!

[Nicholas]

This sin't even intellectual! Total publicity stunt!

https://www.usadailynews.site/2019/10/19/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-that-could-free-him-after-33-years-behind-bars/

[Nicholas]

Michael Naughton is attempting to “Empower the innocent”

Trudi Benjamin is retweeting Patron Peter Tatchell, who one of Luke Mitchell’s main supporters Scott Forbes refers to as a “peodophile”
then there was this from last November https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374467/Peter-Tatchell-forced-deny-advocating-paedophilia-1997-letter.html


Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Peter Tatchell
@PeterTatchell
3h
Another miscarriage of justice? #JeremyBamber's 'new evidence' could free him after 33 years behind bars. Essex police accused of withholding evidence that may cast doubt on the safety of his conviction: https://mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-bambers-new-evidence-could-20651305?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar… FOLLOW
@JeremyBamber
@jbcampaignltd
@Bambertweets

She’s also retweeting in support of Tom Watson

Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Tom Watson
@tom_watson
·
2h
Johnson must comply with the law. His deal will make us poorer and degrade environmental and workers’ rights. He cannot force this through by threatening a disastrous No Deal. The only way to finally and fairly resolve this and bring the country together is through a #PeoplesVote


and indeed Keri Starmer


Trudi Benjamin Retweeted
Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
7h
Five reasons to #VoteTheDealDown

❌ Rules out a Customs Union

❌ Rejects a close Single Market relationship

❌ Risks a no deal crash out at the end of 2020

❌ Does not address concerns about security and cooperation

❌ You can’t trust Boris Johnson

Of course she can tweet and retweet till her hearts content but her views aren’t going down too well by those people with opposing views, especially those who followed the Carl Beech case.

I suspect many individuals, especially those who are fighting and campaigning for alleged false allegations of HSA see someone like Trudi Benjamin as out of touch.

But apparently:


Trudi Benjamin
@tru68
17m
It’s a long and exhausting road and we all at the #JeremyBamber Campaign stand in solidarity with those fighting injustice
https://mobile.twitter.com/tru68/status/1185558812176125952