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Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2017, 12:38:48 PM »
It has crossed my mind that the police may be more interested in what this sought-after witness can tell them about her late husband's life & the circumstances surrounding his death.

Have you anything to lead your thoughts in that direction Misty?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2017, 12:59:08 PM »
It has crossed my mind that the police may be more interested in what this sought-after witness can tell them about her late husband's life & the circumstances surrounding his death.

Were I suspecting nefarious goings on surrounding his death my first port of call might be the Coroners Office.
As by definition from the items quoted already I know her identity I think I would forget about the press and go with the cops.

This is a subversive plot aimed at keeping the chattering classes on McCann fora, chattering with implausibilities. "Don't look here look over there" to quote G-Unit
IMNSHO of course
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Offline misty

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2017, 01:21:57 PM »
Have you anything to lead your thoughts in that direction Misty?

Just the mysterious death of someone else connected to a POI in this case (and no, I won't be naming the deceased)

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2017, 01:26:35 PM »
What is it they have done to make you think they appear to have learned nothing about PI's?

As we don't know all the details re Halligan  -  we don't know what the McCanns priorities were at the time.    I can understand why they were careful what they said about him before he was tried and found guilty as charged.  At the time Kate wrote her book he was still on remand in Ireland - fighting extradition to the USA and denying all the charges.  They could not see into the future and so  publicly making accusations against him may well have been libellous at that time. 

I think it goes without saying that they would be deeply upset about his criminal activities when it came to the fund.  Why anyone would think anything other than that is beyond me.

Even if their priorities were different to yours - doesn't automatically make them wrong - it just makes them different to yours.

AIMHO

They have hired PI's without, it seems, making sure they had a track record of success in similar cases, despite newspaper reports suggesting otherwise. Metodo 3 came with lots of warnings which the McCanns blithely appeared to ignore;

 "Kate and Gerry now have great faith in Metodo and are very impressed with its record.[News of the World 28 October 2007]

They were selected to help with the search for Madeleine on the basis of a proven history of resolving cases in the Iberian peninsula [Official Find Madeleine website]

In a raid on Metodo 3's Barcelona offices, police seized handguns, ammunition, listening equipment, cassettes and transcripts of taped phone calls. But the 1995 case was dropped by a judge after defence lawyers levelled accusations of police entrapment. [Daily Mail 25 November 2007]

Manuel Marlaska, a journalist from Spain's best-known investigative magazine Interviu, says: "They are the most prestigious detective agency in Spain.

"But the work they are doing now seems strange. They do not have any experience of working with such a high-profile case as that of Madeleine McCann. [Mail on Sunday 2 November 2007]

there is no suggestion of missing persons, or even cases outside the commercial sphere. Indeed, in a 2003 interview, Francisco Marco said:

"As we're not specialists in dealing with private individuals, we stayed away from this area.

"Our focus is companies. [Mail on Sunday 2 December 2007]
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2017, 02:45:08 PM »
Just the mysterious death of someone else connected to a POI in this case (and no, I won't be naming the deceased)

Mysterious? He was killed by a tractor. Nothing very 'mysterious' about that.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2017, 07:04:12 PM »
Mysterious? He was killed by a tractor. Nothing very 'mysterious' about that.

That wasn't the particular death I was referring to.
I am curious as to why the wife of a deceased man who lived near 5A in Luz would have reason to disappear off the face of the earth (if MSM is to be believed) & the reason for the apparent police interest in her.

Offline jassi

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2017, 07:54:29 PM »
Journalistic licence I expect. Searching for someone who might have returned to an unnamed Eastern European country is likely to be far beyond their capability

Much easier to make something up. Who is going to contradict them?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2017, 09:35:31 PM »
The late Robert Mitchum at a press conference:

“They're all true – booze, brawls, broads, all true. Make up some more if you want to".




typo corrected
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Offline sadie

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2017, 12:16:27 AM »
Ah Danny Collins the intrepid churnalist who, in his book, claimed that the McCanns had been on a two week holiday and perhaps do you think the REAL police didn't join the dots between Cooper's sighting and Madeleine's disappearance because there was no dots to join?

Maybe the Police, you refer to, didn't join the dots because wrong decisions were made at the beginning?
And because the main thrust of the search was not for a living Madeleine but for dead body ?   
Amaral is on record as having decided the day after Madeleine went that he was looking for a dead body and NOT a living child.


How come he ignored
-  the bunch of sightings up in the Porto - Guimares area
-  the children who had been assaulted in their own holiday apartments with their parents asleep in the next bedroom
-  the group of young children who were taken /vanished in the Algarve, one every 18 months or so
-  the string of pre-pubescent children who vanished roughly every 18 months, some around Porto / Guimares and some within 25 miles of PdL ?  Why did he ignore these missing children?

Historical happenings could in certain cases help solve crimes such as these.   Why wasn't Amaral interested?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2017, 07:22:28 AM »
Maybe the Police, you refer to, didn't join the dots because wrong decisions were made at the beginning?
And because the main thrust of the search was not for a living Madeleine but for dead body ?   
Amaral is on record as having decided the day after Madeleine went that he was looking for a dead body and NOT a living child.


How come he ignored
-  the bunch of sightings up in the Porto - Guimares area
-  the children who had been assaulted in their own holiday apartments with their parents asleep in the next bedroom
-  the group of young children who were taken /vanished in the Algarve, one every 18 months or so
-  the string of pre-pubescent children who vanished roughly every 18 months, some around Porto / Guimares and some within 25 miles of PdL ?  Why did he ignore these missing children?

Historical happenings could in certain cases help solve crimes such as these.   Why wasn't Amaral interested?

Why would he when there was no evidence that a child had been abducted from Luz?
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Offline Montclair

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2017, 02:43:46 PM »
Maybe the Police, you refer to, didn't join the dots because wrong decisions were made at the beginning?
And because the main thrust of the search was not for a living Madeleine but for dead body ?   
Amaral is on record as having decided the day after Madeleine went that he was looking for a dead body and NOT a living child.


How come he ignored
-  the bunch of sightings up in the Porto - Guimares area
-  the children who had been assaulted in their own holiday apartments with their parents asleep in the next bedroom
-  the group of young children who were taken /vanished in the Algarve, one every 18 months or so
-  the string of pre-pubescent children who vanished roughly every 18 months, some around Porto / Guimares and some within 25 miles of PdL ?  Why did he ignore these missing children?

Historical happenings could in certain cases help solve crimes such as these.   Why wasn't Amaral interested?

After 10 years you do not yet understand that Gonçalo Amaral did not lead the investigation, he did not decide what leads or clues to follow.

Also please cite where Amaral said that he was looking for a body from the first day. As for these allegations that children had been vanishing every 18 months in the Algarve, I will just say that someone's imagination is running wild.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2017, 04:06:36 PM »
After 10 years you do not yet understand that Gonçalo Amaral did not lead the investigation, he did not decide what leads or clues to follow.

Also please cite where Amaral said that he was looking for a body from the first day. As for these allegations that children had been vanishing every 18 months in the Algarve, I will just say that someone's imagination is running wild.

Amaral is quite clear in his book;

"Two deputy national directors....will direct the investigations."

His role was to assist them.

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2017, 05:17:23 PM »
Amaral is quite clear in his book;

"Two deputy national directors....will direct the investigations."

His role was to assist them.

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2017, 05:37:43 PM »
Maybe the Police, you refer to, didn't join the dots because wrong decisions were made at the beginning?
And because the main thrust of the search was not for a living Madeleine but for dead body ?   
Amaral is on record as having decided the day after Madeleine went that he was looking for a dead body and NOT a living child.


How come he ignored
-  the bunch of sightings up in the Porto - Guimares area
-  the children who had been assaulted in their own holiday apartments with their parents asleep in the next bedroom
-  the group of young children who were taken /vanished in the Algarve, one every 18 months or so
-  the string of pre-pubescent children who vanished roughly every 18 months, some around Porto / Guimares and some within 25 miles of PdL ?  Why did he ignore these missing children?

Historical happenings could in certain cases help solve crimes such as these.   Why wasn't Amaral interested?

Detectives don't decide where to investigate Sadie, they follow the evidence and see where that takes them.  As for Maddie's disappearance, from the very first moment the police arrived on the scene they had doubts as to the parents claims.  Once forensics had done their work it became clear that if there was an intruder/abductor, then he must have been the cleverest one in history not to have left any telltale signs behind of his visit.  He must also have been the luckiest guy in history as even Crecheman didn't see him.

Had there been signs of a break-in, boot marks on the sills, the bedding or the floor, had there been signs of a struggle, screams, valuables taken etc... then just maybe the intruder/abductor claim could have attracted some credibility.
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Offline misty

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2017, 06:13:12 PM »
After 10 years you do not yet understand that Gonçalo Amaral did not lead the investigation, he did not decide what leads or clues to follow.

Also please cite where Amaral said that he was looking for a body from the first day. As for these allegations that children had been vanishing every 18 months in the Algarve, I will just say that someone's imagination is running wild.

Who was responsible for the request to make the McCanns arguidos on 7/9/2007, given that Tavares de Almeida's interim report containing the "theseis" and addressed to the co-ordinator of the investigation was dated 10/9/07 and signed by the MP 11/9/07?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAVARES_ALMEIDA.htm