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Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2017, 07:29:53 PM »
There appears to have been an appeal of some sort on German TV.

That's just a picture of the 2013 Crimewatch programme the full story here;

https://www.theepochtimes.com/report-madeleine-mccann-investigators-hunting-person-of-significance_2323908.html

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Offline misty

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2017, 07:33:46 PM »

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #107 on: October 12, 2017, 10:03:10 PM »
There appears to have been an appeal of some sort on German TV.

It's from 2013 I think Misty.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #108 on: October 12, 2017, 10:06:44 PM »
My mistake, I didn't notice the date under the picture. Here is the article from today which I used.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/madeleine-mccann-case-police-searching-for-eastern-european-woman-report-says_2331443.html

The Sun article regurgitated.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #109 on: October 12, 2017, 10:09:47 PM »
There appears to have been an appeal of some sort on German TV.
yes.  I looked into all of this and the age progressed image was in the paper over there.  This prompted a sighting of a lady who had a child that matched that image and the guy reported it to OG.  He did some investigation of his own.   It will be amazing if we are discussing the same person and OG is looking for the person he met with the daughter who looked like Madeleine at 9 years of age.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #110 on: October 18, 2017, 05:45:23 PM »
Trace, Investigate, Evaluate - that's how UK police work. There's absolutely no point in placing all the eggs in one basket in case the basket has a hole in it.


Like the abduction theory being played as fact? one egg - one basket- full of holes!
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Offline Lace

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #111 on: October 20, 2017, 04:49:59 PM »

Like the abduction theory being played as fact? one egg - one basket- full of holes!

You forgot to add IMO at the end of your post.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #112 on: October 20, 2017, 09:33:57 PM »
You forgot to add IMO at the end of your post.

Back to the topic. The critical lead, perhaps the last straw in the hay barn, will turn out to be something of nothing... PJ are still saying nothing... the only reason OG talk is to ask for more money. The McCanns are silent. perhaps the calm before the storm?
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Offline sadie

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #113 on: October 21, 2017, 12:04:49 AM »
Back to the topic. The critical lead, perhaps the last straw in the hay barn, will turn out to be something of nothing... PJ are still saying nothing... the only reason OG talk is to ask for more money. The McCanns are silent. perhaps the calm before the storm?
Is that IYO, or do you know that?

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2017, 03:19:36 PM »
In my opinion there really can't be much of a chance of anyone who isn't privy to the inner workings of the reopened PJ and SY investigation to pick up on anything about the lead we have been told is currently being followed.

There was just so much information from the time which was swishing around ignored ... which may or may not have been reported to Operation grange but if it was, would take time to collate and which may have slotted into something else to lead off in an entirely different direction from any we know of.

I have dwelt on the fact that Mr and Mrs Moyes who were out and about around the time of Madeleine's disappearance might have seen something of relevance without even knowing it ... but despite being resident in the apartment block from which Madeleine disappeared, were not interviewed by the police.

The other night I discovered they were not the only family who may have had a story to tell ... but it seems they, like the Moyes had no-one to tell it to.

Crucial Madeleine McCann case questions that remain unanswered after a decade
Irish journalist John McGee was holidaying in Praia da Luz when the little girl went missing. In a compelling account, he says we seem to be no nearer to the truth
May 2 2017

Snip
Somewhat oblivious to what was unfolding on the streets below us, my wife and I and our daughter, who was only a few months older than Madeleine, went to bed in the Estrela da Luz apartment complex a couple of hundred yards from where Madeleine disappeared.

Having just returned from dinner in a nearby restaurant, we could hear commotion four floors below us on the street. It eventually moved on to another street and, thinking nothing of it, we headed for our wine-induced and, in hindsight, selfish slumber.

*******************************************************************************************

A little English girl has gone missing overnight, we were told by one of the women working on the reception of the apartment complex. Hastily printed photos of a pretty, young blonde child had been left at hotel and apartment reception desks. This was the same Madeleine McCann we had seen tagging along with her mother as she pushed her twins in a double buggy up the hill. This was happening to the same family we had passed on several occasions days before as we walked down towards the supermarket. This was the same Gerry McCann we had seen playing tennis several days earlier.

*******************************************************************************************

At no stage of the initial investigation, however, did local police attempt to interview us or anyone in our apartment complex, despite its proximity to the Ocean Club resort. In our case, certain things we had witnessed over the previous week and indeed on the night of Madeleine's disappearance might have been of use to them.

The suspicious looking characters hanging around Hugo Beatty's bar two nights earlier - one of whom resembled the identikit photo issued by the Metropolitan Police years later; the pick-up-style truck that sped past us as we walked back to the apartment from the restaurant that fateful night; the elderly bearded man videoing children at a nearby theme park three days before.

At the time, their possible significance meant nothing to us, but they might have been of some help. It was only when we arrived back in Dublin five days later that we felt compelled to volunteer statements to the gardai, who then passed them on to Interpol, by then already on the case. Presumably, Interpol then passed them on to the Portuguese police.

In addition, the many photos we had taken during our holiday that might have provided clues or identified 'people of interest' in and around Praia da Luz and Lagos were uploaded to a website that was set up by the investigation. We never heard anything back from the Portuguese police, who in July 2008 officially closed the case.

*******************************************************************************************

  ... the Find Madeleine campaign never gave up hope, and a concerted effort was made to keep it in the headlines, something that irked the Portuguese police considerably.

*******************************************************************************************

 Of particular interest to the Metropolitan Police was the speeding pick-up truck that flew past us on the way home from the restaurant and the three suspicious looking in Hugo Beatty's bar. It later emerged that two waiters working in the restaurant also noticed a man acting suspiciously in a phone box across the road earlier in the evening. And one of the subsequent identikit photos published by the Metropolitan Police of two men they wanted to talk to resembled one of the men we'd spotted in the bar.

After carrying out a cell-dump of all mobile phone activity in the Praia da Luz area in the lead-up to Madeleine's disappearance and the days after, the Metropolitan Police were also able to identify all the telephone numbers we dialled, as well as the numbers that had dialled us during that period. As is the norm in such cases, details of all calls made and received were submitted as part of our statements.

The use of cell-dumps has helped police gain convictions in several high-profile murder cases in the past, and nowadays cell-dumps are almost as useful to the police as fingerprints or DNA. It was later reported by several UK newspapers that the cell-dump turned up a large number of telephone calls and texts in and around the Ocean Club between a group of men around the time of Madeleine's disappearance. Nothing ever came of it.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/crucial-madeleine-mccann-case-questions-that-remain-unanswered-after-a-decade-35670997.html


I'd never heard of that potential witness before now ... one wonders how many similar stories there may be which were not heard in May 2007 ... and one wonders if there might have been one which might have provided the key to part of the puzzle which would have found Madeleine.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline sadie

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #115 on: October 29, 2017, 05:00:53 PM »
In my opinion there really can't be much of a chance of anyone who isn't privy to the inner workings of the reopened PJ and SY investigation to pick up on anything about the lead we have been told is currently being followed.

There was just so much information from the time which was swishing around ignored ... which may or may not have been reported to Operation grange but if it was, would take time to collate and which may have slotted into something else to lead off in an entirely different direction from any we know of.

I have dwelt on the fact that Mr and Mrs Moyes who were out and about around the time of Madeleine's disappearance might have seen something of relevance without even knowing it ... but despite being resident in the apartment block from which Madeleine disappeared, were not interviewed by the police.

The other night I discovered they were not the only family who may have had a story to tell ... but it seems they, like the Moyes had no-one to tell it to.

Crucial Madeleine McCann case questions that remain unanswered after a decade
Irish journalist John McGee was holidaying in Praia da Luz when the little girl went missing. In a compelling account, he says we seem to be no nearer to the truth
May 2 2017

Snip
Somewhat oblivious to what was unfolding on the streets below us, my wife and I and our daughter, who was only a few months older than Madeleine, went to bed in the Estrela da Luz apartment complex a couple of hundred yards from where Madeleine disappeared.

Having just returned from dinner in a nearby restaurant, we could hear commotion four floors below us on the street. It eventually moved on to another street and, thinking nothing of it, we headed for our wine-induced and, in hindsight, selfish slumber.

*******************************************************************************************

A little English girl has gone missing overnight, we were told by one of the women working on the reception of the apartment complex. Hastily printed photos of a pretty, young blonde child had been left at hotel and apartment reception desks. This was the same Madeleine McCann we had seen tagging along with her mother as she pushed her twins in a double buggy up the hill. This was happening to the same family we had passed on several occasions days before as we walked down towards the supermarket. This was the same Gerry McCann we had seen playing tennis several days earlier.

*******************************************************************************************

At no stage of the initial investigation, however, did local police attempt to interview us or anyone in our apartment complex, despite its proximity to the Ocean Club resort. In our case, certain things we had witnessed over the previous week and indeed on the night of Madeleine's disappearance might have been of use to them.

The suspicious looking characters hanging around Hugo Beatty's bar two nights earlier - one of whom resembled the identikit photo issued by the Metropolitan Police years later; the pick-up-style truck that sped past us as we walked back to the apartment from the restaurant that fateful night; the elderly bearded man videoing children at a nearby theme park three days before.

At the time, their possible significance meant nothing to us, but they might have been of some help. It was only when we arrived back in Dublin five days later that we felt compelled to volunteer statements to the gardai, who then passed them on to Interpol, by then already on the case. Presumably, Interpol then passed them on to the Portuguese police.

In addition, the many photos we had taken during our holiday that might have provided clues or identified 'people of interest' in and around Praia da Luz and Lagos were uploaded to a website that was set up by the investigation. We never heard anything back from the Portuguese police, who in July 2008 officially closed the case.

*******************************************************************************************

  ... the Find Madeleine campaign never gave up hope, and a concerted effort was made to keep it in the headlines, something that irked the Portuguese police considerably.

*******************************************************************************************

 Of particular interest to the Metropolitan Police was the speeding pick-up truck that flew past us on the way home from the restaurant and the three suspicious looking in Hugo Beatty's bar. It later emerged that two waiters working in the restaurant also noticed a man acting suspiciously in a phone box across the road earlier in the evening. And one of the subsequent identikit photos published by the Metropolitan Police of two men they wanted to talk to resembled one of the men we'd spotted in the bar.

After carrying out a cell-dump of all mobile phone activity in the Praia da Luz area in the lead-up to Madeleine's disappearance and the days after, the Metropolitan Police were also able to identify all the telephone numbers we dialled, as well as the numbers that had dialled us during that period. As is the norm in such cases, details of all calls made and received were submitted as part of our statements.

The use of cell-dumps has helped police gain convictions in several high-profile murder cases in the past, and nowadays cell-dumps are almost as useful to the police as fingerprints or DNA. It was later reported by several UK newspapers that the cell-dump turned up a large number of telephone calls and texts in and around the Ocean Club between a group of men around the time of Madeleine's disappearance. Nothing ever came of it.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/crucial-madeleine-mccann-case-questions-that-remain-unanswered-after-a-decade-35670997.html


I'd never heard of that potential witness before now ... one wonders how many similar stories there may be which were not heard in May 2007 ... and one wonders if there might have been one which might have provided the key to part of the puzzle which would have found Madeleine.
How interesting.  Thanks for finding that Brietta.

Here we have an example of facts and information that we didn't even know existed.   There may have been many more that collectively, or individually, helped SY and Madeleine brach PJ, Porto move on to the position that they are at now.

I hope that stephen especially has read this.  It explains how SY could know a great deal more than he and others think.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2017, 12:11:20 PM »
Back to the topic. The critical lead, perhaps the last straw in the hay barn, will turn out to be something of nothing... PJ are still saying nothing... the only reason OG talk is to ask for more money. The McCanns are silent. perhaps the calm before the storm?



This was brought to my attention. It is actually a really good well balanced piece for the DM... surprisingly.
The headline...

The TWO vital Maddie questions: Why didn't the Met quiz the McCanns again and who was the woman in purple?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5048349/The-TWO-vital-Maddie-questions.html?mrn_rm=rta.



'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline sadie

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2017, 01:21:00 PM »


This was brought to my attention. It is actually a really good well balanced piece for the DM... surprisingly.
The headline...

The TWO vital Maddie questions: Why didn't the Met quiz the McCanns again and who was the woman in purple?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5048349/The-TWO-vital-Maddie-questions.html?mrn_rm=rta.
Old stuiff Mistaken.  Do you really want us to keep going over it?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2017, 01:28:49 PM »

The Mail is fixated on the woman in purple;

The TWO vital Maddie questions: Why didn't the Met quiz the McCanns again and who was the woman in purple?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5048349/The-TWO-vital-Maddie-questions.html#ixzz4xT8c7C6V
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They could ask Jeremy Wilkins on Jane Tanner;

 I believe I saw her when I first ventured out. She was stopped on the street in front of one of the group's apartments when I passed her down towards the exit to my apartment. I do not know if it was her apartment or not. I remember that she was wearing the colour purple.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

Two women wearing purple or one woman seen by two people?
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Offline Carana

Re: Maddie cops pursue mysterious woman in purple?
« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2017, 01:32:19 PM »


This was brought to my attention. It is actually a really good well balanced piece for the DM... surprisingly.
The headline...

The TWO vital Maddie questions: Why didn't the Met quiz the McCanns again and who was the woman in purple?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5048349/The-TWO-vital-Maddie-questions.html?mrn_rm=rta.

Who is this latest journalist? What can be substantiated beyond the fact that there was apparently a woman in a purplish top somewhere in the vicinity?

Personally, I don't pay much attention to such phrases as "it is understood / believed that..." in the tabloids.

Anyone could submit an article stating that it is widely believed / understood that the moon is made of blue cheese, or perhaps pumpkin at the moment (as it seems to be the season for the clickbait key word "pumpkin").

It's not defamatory towards the McCanns, but questions the Met's continued investigation into what appears to be the last lead.

I can't find anything to substantiate that the woman in purple is still a lead, let alone that the Met would be criss-crossing around Europe to interview her.

Nor can I find anything substantiated to the contrary... so perhaps the moon is indeed made of pumpkin.