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Offline jassi

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #75 on: January 20, 2018, 10:00:16 AM »
Quote from: Carana on January 20, 2018, 09:54:30 AM
Open to interpretation, I suppose.

During that time I spoke to all my family members who were with me on the night of 3rd May 2007 about this and the only one who felt the same way as me was my wife. Martin Smith

I take that as meaning that they didn't think it was him, otherwise he could have said that any of the others wasn't sure either way.

There's an audio recording of Peter, interviewed quite some time later. Not sure where to find that now.

But none of them said that it wasn't him. Not being sure isn't an exclusion.
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Offline Benice

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #76 on: January 20, 2018, 10:21:22 AM »
Quote from: jassi on January 20, 2018, 10:00:16 AM
But none of them said that it wasn't him. Not being sure isn't an exclusion.

Good grief  - this is taking nitpicking to whole new level IMO.   He rang all of his family to tell them what he now thought having seen Gerry carrying Sean on TV  - and not one of them felt the same as he did - and told him so.    IOW - they all disagreed with him.   Full stop.

IMO

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #77 on: January 20, 2018, 10:43:34 AM »
Quote from: Benice on January 20, 2018, 10:21:22 AM
Good grief  - this is taking nitpicking to whole new level IMO.   He rang all of his family to tell them what he now thought having seen Gerry carrying Sean on TV  - and not one of them felt the same as he did - and told him so.    IOW - they all disagreed with him.   Full stop.

IMO
Not quite all of them disagreed, his wife agreed.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #78 on: January 20, 2018, 10:44:00 AM »
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #79 on: January 20, 2018, 10:47:25 AM »
Quote from: Davel on January 20, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #80 on: January 20, 2018, 11:17:36 AM »
Quote from: Benice on January 20, 2018, 10:21:22 AM
Good grief  - this is taking nitpicking to whole new level IMO.   He rang all of his family to tell them what he now thought having seen Gerry carrying Sean on TV  - and not one of them felt the same as he did - and told him so.    IOW - they all disagreed with him.   Full stop.

IMO

So you extrapolate not felt the same to disagree?
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Offline Benice

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #81 on: January 20, 2018, 11:30:25 AM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on January 20, 2018, 11:17:36 AM
So you extrapolate not felt the same to disagree?

Martin Smith told his family that he felt/thought that it could have been Gerry they saw in PdL.  Apart from his wife,   his family told him they did not feel/think the same as he did.     IOW unlike him  - they did not feel/think it was Gerry they saw in Pdl.     What is there to not understand in that?
IMO
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #82 on: January 20, 2018, 12:03:13 PM »
Quote from: Carana on January 20, 2018, 09:54:30 AM
Open to interpretation, I suppose.

During that time I spoke to all my family members who were with me on the night of 3rd May 2007 about this and the only one who felt the same way as me was my wife. Martin Smith

I take that as meaning that they didn't think it was him, otherwise he could have said that any of the others wasn't sure either way.

There's an audio recording of Peter, interviewed quite some time later. Not sure where to find that now.

Where a Sky News reporter is on the phone talking to Peter, who was not shown. it was around the time of the e-fit release, I believe.

I recall Peter stressing that, it had to be her...

He seemed quite certain the child was Maddie imo.
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Offline Carana

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #83 on: January 20, 2018, 12:08:49 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 20, 2018, 10:00:16 AM
But none of them said that it wasn't him. Not being sure isn't an exclusion.

So the "only other person" who agreed doesn't exclude the others, in your view?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #84 on: January 20, 2018, 12:27:06 PM »
Quote from: Carana on January 20, 2018, 12:08:49 PM
So the "only other person" who agreed doesn't exclude the others, in your view?

There is a difference between “couldn’t identify” and “identified as not being” both of which could be termed “didn’t agree”.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #85 on: January 20, 2018, 02:37:40 PM »
Quote from: Davel on January 20, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
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Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #87 on: January 20, 2018, 05:48:12 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 19, 2018, 06:28:00 PM
I can clear that one up, they didn't.

The defamation laws changed in 2013 which sems to have escaped some peoples attention...
How many writs of defamation in respect of this case were actually heard by a judge and ruled as libelous by the courts?
As opposed to the massed ranks of the very rich press saying let's settle out of court ?
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Offline Carana

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #88 on: January 20, 2018, 06:39:09 PM »
Quote from: Alice Purjorick on January 20, 2018, 05:48:12 PM
The defamation laws changed in 2013 which sems to have escaped some peoples attention...
How many writs of defamation in respect of this case were actually heard by a judge and ruled as libelous by the courts?
As opposed to the massed ranks of the very rich press saying let's settle out of court ?

I can't recall any in the UK that involved a trial.
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Offline jassi

Re: Did false memory syndrome play a part in the McCann case?
« Reply #89 on: January 20, 2018, 06:40:47 PM »
Quote from: Carana on January 20, 2018, 06:39:09 PM
I can't recall any in the UK that involved a trial.

Only a pretendy one with a photo-shoot on the steps of the High Court
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