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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #300 on: February 05, 2018, 03:31:05 PM »
As Mr. Smith made it quite obvious quite some time ago that he was not prepared to discuss this with The Media. I suspect that The BBC and GO'D would have gotten short shrift if they had approached him.

But the revelation itself, supported or not, is just too pathetic for words.  A bit like Amaral and his Ace.

Who cares if Martin Smith never retracted.  He would never have been a witness anyway.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #301 on: February 05, 2018, 04:24:10 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 05, 2018, 03:31:05 PM
As Mr. Smith made it quite obvious quite some time ago that he was not prepared to discuss this with The Media. I suspect that The BBC and GO'D would have gotten short shrift if they had approached him.

But the revelation itself, supported or not, is just too pathetic for words.  A bit like Amaral and his Ace.

Who cares if Martin Smith never retracted. He would never have been a witness anyway.

Has anyone suggested otherwise?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #302 on: February 05, 2018, 04:35:57 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on February 05, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
What I may or may not think is irrelevant.  I am not making a living from it ... apparently Gemma O'Doherty does as an investigative journalist. 
She has already told us about Martin Smith and the BBC therefore there can be no question of her having to protect her sources.  They are already revealed.  So why the shyness about letting us in on what convinced her?  Didn't she keep a record I wonder.

Your criticism of Gemma Doherty is surprising to me because you have never demanded that the MSM adhere to the standards you are demanding from her. I have noticed that you tend to reproduce MSM articles on here as if they were factual even though they contain no named or verifiable sources.

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #303 on: February 05, 2018, 04:36:51 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 05, 2018, 04:24:10 PM
Has anyone suggested otherwise?

I think a few might have been hoping.  But then there isn't much logic when it comes to some Sceptics.

This whole Affair has always depended on logic.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #304 on: February 05, 2018, 04:45:58 PM »
Indeed and one must trust that the logical process of the police investigation will result in a conviction.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #305 on: February 05, 2018, 04:50:53 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 05, 2018, 04:45:58 PM
Indeed and one must trust that the logical process of the police investigation will result in a conviction.

Which is why The Police aren't pursuing The McCanns.  In My Opinion, of course.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #306 on: February 05, 2018, 05:03:24 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on February 05, 2018, 02:04:50 PM
Did you read Mr Smith's statement?  what information could he have supplied to enable an efit?  so make the logical deduction from that ... starting with Mr Smith's assertion that he definitely didn't look like Robert Murat.
How did Martin Smith know it wasn't Robert Murat?  Had he seen RM carrying a child?
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #307 on: February 05, 2018, 05:10:57 PM »
While you may not be able to recall facial details of someone you didn't know, I'm pretty sure sure you could tell if it was someone you knew by sight.

Murat wears glasses, whereas Smithman didn't.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #308 on: February 05, 2018, 05:14:22 PM »
Quote from: Wonderfulspam on February 05, 2018, 02:19:04 PM
Yes.

He could have supplied information such as, the person didn't have glasses, or moustache or beard, & had short brown hair in a basic male cut, for starters.

Perhaps when they put him back in the moment, like they did with Jane, he could later have remembered more.

Granted, he perhaps didn't have the same power of recall as Ms Tanner, her being able to observe, from a distance of 5 metres, the individual bits of hair coming from creche-dads head.

I can't even begin to imagine why Henri Exton might have been sceptical about her evidence.
When did he last see Robert Murat?  Was there enough time for RM to grow longer hair or grow facial hair?  Was there enough time to change his appearance?
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Offline misty

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #309 on: February 05, 2018, 05:19:01 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 05, 2018, 05:10:57 PM
While you may not be able to recall facial details of someone you didn't know, I'm pretty sure sure you could tell if it was someone you knew by sight.

Murat wears glasses, whereas Smithman didn't.


Sylvia Batista knew Murat by sight after the event but apparently she made a mistake in identifying him as being near 5A on the night of the 3rd May 2007.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #310 on: February 05, 2018, 05:19:42 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on February 05, 2018, 05:14:22 PM
When did he last see Robert Murat?  Was there enough time for RM to grow longer hair or grow facial hair?

Do you seriously think it was Murat?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #311 on: February 05, 2018, 05:20:52 PM »
Quote from: Wonderfulspam on February 05, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
I just compared the two running times.

The difference between the two is, the edited version runs around 3 to 4 seconds shorter than the original.

Coincidently, this is roughly the same amount of time it took for Richard Bilton to say:

'The Smiths themselves now believe they saw someone else'

How Extraordinary!
I note you have the word "Smiths" in plural, so that judgement is based on the majority of the Smiths not just the patriarch.
'The Smiths themselves now believe they saw someone else'  Martin still could have stuck out and that statement still be true.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #312 on: February 05, 2018, 05:22:21 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 05, 2018, 05:19:42 PM
Do you seriously think it was Murat?

Why are you so certain that it wasn't?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #313 on: February 05, 2018, 05:22:57 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 05, 2018, 05:19:42 PM
Do you seriously think it was Murat?
I didn't say that.  From what I recall MS said it wasn't Murat.  How was he so sure?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #314 on: February 05, 2018, 05:24:27 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on February 05, 2018, 05:20:52 PM
I note you have the word "Smiths" in plural, so that judgement is based on the majority of the Smiths not just the patriarch.
'The Smiths themselves now believe they saw someone else'  Martin still could have stuck out and that statement still be true.

That's just Spammy trying to slip one over.
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