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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #420 on: February 06, 2018, 09:03:43 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on February 06, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
Why? He would be a witness.
There are some types of evidence that would be inadmissible in court, IMO his identification would be one piece of evidence that the defence would claim as inadmissible.  I'm not a lawyer. 
This covers an interesting aspect of inadmissible evidence https://youtu.be/CfoSA0lUU_w
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #421 on: February 06, 2018, 09:07:16 PM »
As I've said before, if it gets to court it will be because there is a lot more evidence than that. The Smith identification is merely a pointer.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #422 on: February 06, 2018, 09:37:59 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 06, 2018, 09:07:16 PM
As I've said before, if it gets to court it will be because there is a lot more evidence than that. The Smith identification is merely a pointer.

I would say the Smiths are keeping their heads down for fear of being sued.  Poor Aoife has had to leave Ireland and now lives in San Diego.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #423 on: February 06, 2018, 09:40:17 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 06, 2018, 09:07:16 PM
As I've said before, if it gets to court it will be because there is a lot more evidence than that. The Smith identification is merely a pointer.
It is relevant evidence.

Quote from: Angelo222 on February 06, 2018, 09:37:59 PM
I would say the Smiths are keeping their heads down for fear of being sued.  Poor Aoife has had to leave Ireland and now lives in San Diego.
Nothing wrong with San Diego.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #424 on: February 06, 2018, 09:45:39 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on February 06, 2018, 09:03:43 PM
There are some types of evidence that would be inadmissible in court, IMO his identification would be one piece of evidence that the defence would claim as inadmissible.  I'm not a lawyer. 
This covers an interesting aspect of inadmissible evidence https://youtu.be/CfoSA0lUU_w

Why would it be inadmissible?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #425 on: February 06, 2018, 09:45:57 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on February 06, 2018, 09:37:59 PM
I would say the Smiths are keeping their heads down for fear of being sued.  Poor Aoife has had to leave Ireland and now lives in San Diego.

Many young people leave, rural Ireland where there are, few to no decent career opportunities and, seek a, better life abroad... That's, how, it is
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #426 on: February 06, 2018, 09:47:31 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on February 06, 2018, 09:45:39 PM
Why would it be inadmissible?

I doubt it would be inadmissible  but I think his identification would be torn apart under cross examination
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #427 on: February 06, 2018, 09:54:33 PM »
Quote from: Davel on February 06, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
I doubt it would be inadmissible  but I think his identification would be torn apart under cross examination

That would depend on the relative skills of the prosecution and defence. You would need more evidence.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #428 on: February 06, 2018, 10:07:56 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on February 06, 2018, 09:54:33 PM
That would depend on the relative skills of the prosecution and defence. You would need more evidence.

In your  opinion... Not in mine
He stated initially  he would not be able to recognise the man yet several months later he claims, to be 60/80 sure it is Gerry... Why the change... Because  of the, way the child was, carried... A poor witness who would be torn to shreds imo
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #429 on: February 06, 2018, 10:17:22 PM »
Quote from: Davel on February 06, 2018, 09:45:57 PM
Many young people leave, rural Ireland where there are, few to no decent career opportunities and, seek a, better life abroad... That's, how, it is

Didn't the Smiths live in Drogheda?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #430 on: February 06, 2018, 10:22:38 PM »
Quote from: Alice Purjorick on February 06, 2018, 10:17:22 PM
Didn't the Smiths live in Drogheda?

Yes and to suggest a move to California  is, a backward step is, more than a tax ridiculous
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #431 on: February 06, 2018, 10:29:08 PM »
Quote from: Davel on February 06, 2018, 10:22:38 PM
Yes and to suggest a move to California  is, a backward step is, more than a tax ridiculous

Well your knowledge of the Republic Ireland is about as useless as the rest of your purported mine of knowledge.
A town of 40,000 plus pop is not accurately described as "rural"; you being the one who is perpetually trapping off about accuracy and precision.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #432 on: February 06, 2018, 10:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Alice Purjorick on February 06, 2018, 10:29:08 PM
Well your knowledge of the Republic Ireland is about as useless as the rest of your purported mine of knowledge.
A town of 40,000 plus pop is not accurately described as "rural"; you being the one who is perpetually trapping off about accuracy and precision.

I was speaking in general terms... I'm well aware of the Irish diaspora as my father was part of it... Keep up the insults it's a measure of how rattled you are
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Offline Brietta

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #433 on: February 06, 2018, 10:35:57 PM »
Quote from: Alice Purjorick on February 06, 2018, 10:29:08 PM
Well your knowledge of the Republic Ireland is about as useless as the rest of your purported mine of knowledge.
A town of 40,000 plus pop is not accurately described as "rural"; you being the one who is perpetually trapping off about accuracy and precision.

Drogheda looks to me to have quite a lot going for it ... but at twenty four? maybe Aoife is entitled to have a look at the rest of the world too.

However ... enough wandering around for us on this thread.  Back on topic, please.
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Offline misty

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #434 on: February 06, 2018, 11:24:14 PM »
I wonder why Gemma O'Doherty used only the efit prepared by Peter Smith, rather than the one by Martin Smith, in
her article? (see post #14).

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