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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #525 on: February 10, 2018, 11:44:27 AM »
Quote from: Carana on February 10, 2018, 10:34:36 AM
Open to interpretation, no doubt, but I understand that as an informal enquiry as to whether he'd be willing / available to go over possibly prior to a formal request, unless there wasn't going to be a more formal one and he'd just be asked to pop over on a certain date.

That is my reading of the situation. No request to attend just an enquiry if they would.
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Offline Carana

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #526 on: February 10, 2018, 11:52:53 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on February 10, 2018, 11:05:23 AM
No consultations with lawyers or reassurances for Martin Smith. He seems simply to have wanted to help the PJ to find a missing child. How different his behaviour was to those closest to the child.

As the communication appears to have stopped there (according to the files), there's no way of knowing whether or not he consulted a lawyer or not.

Did it ever occur to him or other members of the family why he was the only one consulted about his availability to make a formal statement?

What would he have needed reassurance about?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #527 on: February 10, 2018, 12:01:38 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on February 10, 2018, 10:25:40 AM
How strange! A thread was deleted not long ago because there was a link to SIL's blog. Something about links to blogs written by members being against the rules, if I remember correctly. but apologies if I've got that wrong.

Hmmm .... a whole thread deleted because of one link ... bit draconian in my opinion?  However, if my recollection is correct no harm done ... if it is wrong my post containing the link will join the deleted thread in the fullness of time and no harm done.
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Offline sadie

Re: Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #528 on: February 10, 2018, 12:04:37 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on February 10, 2018, 05:24:57 AM
I'd better copy it before it gets deleted!
Hurry !   Hurry !  &^^&*

It seems to me that everything of interest, once revealed on forum land, gets deleted.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #529 on: February 10, 2018, 12:12:49 PM »
Quote from: Carana on February 10, 2018, 11:52:53 AM
As the communication appears to have stopped there (according to the files), there's no way of knowing whether or not he consulted a lawyer or not.

Did it ever occur to him or other members of the family why he was the only one consulted about his availability to make a formal statement?

What would he have needed reassurance about?

MS was asked to attend as a witness, exactly the same status as the tapas friends yet they sought assurances.

As MS and his wife were the only ones to cautiously identify the sighting as Gerry it wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to work out why he was invited.

As to consulting a lawyer it would appear MS was immediately willing to go back to Portugal no matter what the inconvenience to himself.
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Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #530 on: February 10, 2018, 12:14:40 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on February 10, 2018, 12:01:38 PM
Hmmm .... a whole thread deleted because of one link ... bit draconian in my opinion?  However, if my recollection is correct no harm done ... if it is wrong my post containing the link will join the deleted thread in the fullness of time and no harm done.
Ooops, another one (a big one it seems, a whole thread !), deleted

I wonder what was particularly interesting about that one ?  What was is about?  Anyone remember ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #531 on: February 10, 2018, 12:22:25 PM »
Quote from: sadie on February 10, 2018, 12:14:40 PM
Ooops, another one (a big one it seems, a whole thread !), deleted

I wonder what was particularly interesting about that one ?  What was is about?  Anyone remember ?
I remember and it may have been my thread.
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Offline Carana

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #532 on: February 10, 2018, 01:17:52 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on February 10, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
MS was asked to attend as a witness, exactly the same status as the tapas friends yet they sought assurances.

As MS and his wife were the only ones to cautiously identify the sighting as Gerry it wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to work out why he was invited.

As to consulting a lawyer it would appear MS was immediately willing to go back to Portugal no matter what the inconvenience to himself.

Is it rocket science as to why the others weren't, do you think?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #533 on: February 10, 2018, 01:21:44 PM »
Quote from: Carana on February 10, 2018, 01:17:52 PM
Is it rocket science as to why the others weren't, do you think?

The others ?

It would appear the request was prompted by MS identification. If the others didn’t agree what would be the point of bringing them back ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #534 on: February 10, 2018, 01:24:09 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on February 10, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
The others ?

It would appear the request was prompted by MS identification. If the others didn’t agree what would be the point of bringing them back ?
That is terrible logic. IMO.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #535 on: February 11, 2018, 04:14:21 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on February 10, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
MS was asked to attend as a witness, exactly the same status as the tapas friends yet they sought assurances.

As MS and his wife were the only ones to cautiously identify the sighting as Gerry it wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to work out why he was invited.

As to consulting a lawyer it would appear MS was immediately willing to go back to Portugal no matter what the inconvenience to himself.

in bold italics,

Indeed I wonder if they were worried that they would be arrested on child neglect claims, I also wonder why on the Portugal trips to see lawyers , not to search for  their daughter, did not see them arrested for leaving a child in danger or some other law.

They refused, and let down a innocent child I ask myself that question  lot- I can't find an answer to be honest.
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Offline Carana

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #536 on: February 11, 2018, 06:20:31 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on February 10, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
The others ?

It would appear the request was prompted by MS identification. If the others didn’t agree what would be the point of bringing them back ?

That's exactly my point, Faith.

Why bring back the only person (the tentative request only concerned Martin according to the files), amongst a group of several who disagreed?

Was it to beef up the prosecution case by only presenting one statement or to establish the facts?

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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #537 on: February 11, 2018, 06:24:51 PM »
MS said it was Gerry, the others disagreed. Did any of them say it wasn't Gerry, or was it a case of not being able to say what the man looked like?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #538 on: February 11, 2018, 06:27:29 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 11, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
MS said it was Gerry, the others disagreed. Did any of them say it wasn't Gerry, or was it a case of not being able to say what the man looked like?

That is my understanding.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #539 on: February 11, 2018, 06:31:38 PM »
So another case of not being cleared  8(0(*
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