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Offline Brietta

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2018, 10:28:06 AM »
IYO. The original Germans were Swiss.

What on earth do you mean by that post?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 10:30:30 AM »
Is it only Madeleine McCann amongst the missing children of the world who in your opinion deserves to have credible leads ignored ... or is it your opinion that sightings of all missing children are to be ignored?

Whichever ... my opinion is that your response to a delay of years in checking out a nearby possible sighting three days after Madeleine disappeared epitomises the lack of diligence her case was afforded at the time.

But it turned out to be worthless, as have all the other alleged sightings, so a delay in investigation affected the outcome not one jot.
If you want to argue the case, why not concentrate on sightings that have never been followed up, ever ?
Or better still, wait until Madeleine has been found and show that she could have been found earlier if the police hadn't ignored the lead.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2018, 10:38:15 AM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2018, 10:31:27 AM »
What on earth do you mean by that post?

You refer to press articles to say no investigations took place. No quotes from the police involved and the reported Germans were Swiss which belies the dodgy registration number.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2018, 11:06:26 AM »
As long as it was eliminated, it doesn't really matter who did it.
All I read was a half hearted attempt by some reporters bluffed off by a bloke who professed innocence.  To me there was no proper conclusion.
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Offline jassi

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2018, 11:12:32 AM »
All I read was a half hearted attempt by some reporters bluffed off by a bloke who professed innocence.  To me there was no proper conclusion.

Do you mean it hasn't been investigated by OG. either?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2018, 11:18:47 AM »
But it turned out to be worthless, as have all the other alleged sightings, so a delay in investigation affected the outcome not one jot.
If you want to argue the case, why not concentrate on sightings that have never been followed up, ever ?
Or better still, wait until Madeleine has been found and show that she could have been found earlier if the police hadn't ignored the lead.
  Did anyone see the blond haired daughter in 2012 or whenever the investigation was done?  I didn't read that that was the case. 
Karsten Mayer said he was going to report himself to the police, was that ever done?  Were the police ever involved, did the case ever go into the PJ file for OG to follow up on?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2018, 11:25:41 AM »
Is this a joke?  "Analysis of sightings  Work in progress"  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/Sightings.htm
A list of country names and nothing else!  OK Spain is on the list but is it Karen Sisson's sighting?

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Offline Brietta

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2018, 11:26:36 AM »
Do you mean it hasn't been investigated by OG. either?

Operation Grange didn't exist in May 2007 ... the Amaral investigation did.  But it seems they had other fish to fry if the sighting of a little girl in suspicious circumstances and in close proximity, resembling the missing child they were allegedly looking for didn't excite their interest.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2018, 11:30:31 AM »
Do you mean it hasn't been investigated by OG. either?
How do we know what OG has done?  If it isn't reported to the PJ the OG detectives won't have anything to go on either. 
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Offline jassi

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2018, 11:31:35 AM »
How do we know what OG has done?  If it isn't reported to the PJ the OG detectives won't have anything to go on either.

In which case no charge of incompetence can be made against either force, can it?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2018, 11:40:38 AM »
In which case no charge of incompetence can be made against either force, can it?
Karen Sissons says she reported the incident to the Spanish Police who weren't that interested [from memory], so did the Spanish Police send a report into the PJ?  Or were the PJ so convinced they were being told "a badly told story" they had already determined the parents and Tapas 7 were involved and hence there was no point in following up leads like this?  It is hard to tell, but if one of the sighting investigated by the PJ was related to this sighting surely someone would have noted it by now. 
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Offline jassi

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2018, 11:43:44 AM »
Karen Sissons says she reported the incident to the Spanish Police who weren't that interested [from memory], so did the Spanish Police send a report into the PJ?  Or were the PJ so convinced they were being told "a badly told story" they had already determined the parents and Tapas 7 were involved and hence there was no point in following up leads like this?  It is hard to tell, but if one of the sighting investigated by the PJ was related to this sighting surely someone would have noted it by now.

Life is full of imponderables .
First demonstrate that either PJ or OG knew about this before criticising them for not following through (if in fact they didn't).
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2018, 11:52:21 AM »
Life is full of imponderables .
First demonstrate that either PJ or OG knew about this before criticising them for not following through (if in fact they didn't).
Have I criticised them (PJ or OG) at all?  No I was making my point against you for accepting the half hearted attempt.
You have made several points seemingly accepting the amateur investigation:
1. "As it proved to be of no value, nothing was lost by being delayed."
2.  "But it turned out to be worthless, as have all the other alleged sightings, so a delay in investigation affected the outcome not one jot. ...."
« Last Edit: February 08, 2018, 11:56:52 AM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Brietta

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2018, 11:53:27 AM »
You refer to press articles to say no investigations took place. No quotes from the police involved and the reported Germans were Swiss which belies the dodgy registration number.

There are no reports from the 'police involved' for the very simple reason the police didn't bother to get themselves involved until the Berne police said in 2012 that Karsten Mayor has already “all but” been ruled out of enquiries.
Possibly awaiting DNA checks, who knows?

A possible sighting of a missing child in the days after her disappearance were simply ignored, that speaks volumes and it certainly speaks volumes to me about those who condone such negligence.

Your remark about the 'dodgy registration number' is also decidedly odd in my opinion given that it is exactly as the witness reported.

Snip
While their car was a Mercedes Vito people carrier first manufactured in 1996, it had a BE German number plate, which has not been used since 1974.
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/3.0.15/news/on-euro-weekly-news/costa-del-sol-malaga/92470

In conjunction with the rest of the witness's report ... how extraordinary is it that professional police officers supposed to be on the alert for a missing child, missed the obvious anomaly of the German number plate and didn't bother to check the sighting out?

Makes one wonder just what else they missed out.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Does anyone know more about this sighting? Costa-del-Sol
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2018, 12:01:25 PM »
Operation Grange didn't exist in May 2007 ... the Amaral investigation did.  But it seems they had other fish to fry if the sighting of a little girl in suspicious circumstances and in close proximity, resembling the missing child they were allegedly looking for didn't excite their interest.

You seem to be assuming that the sighting was reported to the PJ. Perhaps you should attempt to confirm the veracity of your assumption before sharing your opinion on their supposed lack of reaction?
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