The Smithman e-fits

[Robittybob1]

That's rubbish IMO Rob.  As if he didn't know Angus ... a cousin ... but several removed, both in Estate Agency work and more or less the same age in the same village.

Angus was a get out of trouble person IMO.  Please do not interpret that as meaning that Robert had done any wrong, but he certainly would not like the Worlds media following him.

I'd be careful about making claims about what someone knows. 

[G-Unit]

Takes the guesswork  out of identifying a face

Sometimes.

[Robittybob1]

The list of calls was provided by Portugal Telecom to Judge Dos Santos Frías in response to a request from him. Are you casting aspersions on them or the judge?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CALLS_TO_GNR.htm

Any list could be incomplete.  I didn't see any sign that Misty was casting aspersions.

[misty]

The list of calls was provided by Portugal Telecom to Judge Dos Santos Frías in response to a request from him. Are you casting aspersions on them or the judge?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CALLS_TO_GNR.htm

I have no idea what was contained in the lists provided by Portugal Telecom as the originals are not in the public files. Therefore, it is not factual to say that the first call to the GNR was at 2241hrs, given that the spreadsheet does not list the calls in chronological order.

[Carana]

I have no idea what was contained in the lists provided by Portugal Telecom as the originals are not in the public files. Therefore, it is not factual to say that the first call to the GNR was at 2241hrs, given that the spreadsheet does not list the calls in chronological order.

I have a vague recollection of an earlier call via a mobile, which I remember thinking might have been an OC staff or security person to a GNR officer. I can't now remember if I was sure of that or not. I'll post it if I come across it again.

[G-Unit]

I have no idea what was contained in the lists provided by Portugal Telecom as the originals are not in the public files. Therefore, it is not factual to say that the first call to the GNR was at 2241hrs, given that the spreadsheet does not list the calls in chronological order.

How do you know they're not the originals? They look in chronological order to me. They also look like information provided by a telephone company to me.

[Alice Purjorick]

Allegedly the GNR (Slash and Axl?) turned up at the Ocean Club around 23:05.
So what triggered that event? One can scarcely believe they shambled along there because it seemed like a good idea at the time.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_INFORMATION.htm.
https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/portugal/healthcare/emergencies

this is interesting:

https://www.lincs.police.uk/contact/what-happens-when-you-call-the-police/

[ShiningInLuz]

I have a vague recollection of an earlier call via a mobile, which I remember thinking might have been an OC staff or security person to a GNR officer. I can't now remember if I was sure of that or not. I'll post it if I come across it again.

Perhaps you are thinking of Matthew Oldfield, who went to reception around 10.14 or 10.15 pm, to request a call to the police?  However, he left without enforcing a call, thinking Madeleine had woken and wandered, and would soon be found.

This non-call was reported by the Times and the Telegraph, and it seems to run on the Telegraph to this day.

[misty]

How do you know they're not the originals? They look in chronological order to me. They also look like information provided by a telephone company to me.

There is no company logo at the top each sheet.
Your link does not include the calls received by GNR Lagos, merely the ones made by them. The other spreadsheets are the calls made by OC.
The calls received by the GNR are not in chronological order. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7777.msg364541#msg364541

[Carana]

Perhaps you are thinking of Matthew Oldfield, who went to reception around 10.14 or 10.15 pm, to request a call to the police?  However, he left without enforcing a call, thinking Madeleine had woken and wandered, and would soon be found.

This non-call was reported by the Times and the Telegraph, and it seems to run on the Telegraph to this day.

From memory, it was at around that time. It was something that appeared on one of the sheets. I'd have to go back and check - I could be mistaken and it may not have been from OC security after all or it could have been in connection with something totally different.

[Robittybob1]

From memory, it was at around that time. It was something that appeared on one of the sheets. I'd have to go back and check - I could be mistaken and it may not have been from OC security after all or it could have been in connection with something totally different.

I have seen lists which show Silvia Batista made a call too.

[sadie]

I'd be careful about making claims about what someone knows.

Well it is only IMO, but in such a small place, I would have expected all the young people to have known of each other by sight, if not actually know each other.  Especially as they are cousins, (albeit several removed) and both estate agents. 

[Robittybob1]

Well it is only IMO, but in such a small place, I would have expected all the young people to have known of each other by sight, if not actually know each other.  Especially as they are cousins, (albeit several removed) and both estate agents.

I found it odd but without proof to the contrary we just have to accept it.

[G-Unit]

There is no company logo at the top each sheet.
Your link does not include the calls received by GNR Lagos, merely the ones made by them. The other spreadsheets are the calls made by OC.
The calls received by the GNR are not in chronological order. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7777.msg364541#msg364541

It seems we're back to opinion again. I think the telephone lists are facts and you don't. I used the time that the police were called as an example of a fact. It seems the only undeniable fact in this case is that Madeleine McCann disappeared.

[Mr Gray]

It seems we're back to opinion again. I think the telephone lists are facts and you don't. I used the time that the police were called as an example of a fact. It seems the only undeniable fact in this case is that Madeleine McCann disappeared.

Ten years, after the event both investigating police forces have, stated the parents, are not suspects in the investigation... That's an indisputable fact