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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #345 on: February 23, 2018, 12:23:25 PM »
That doesn't explain why he, a businessman, felt the need to be interviewing witnesses.

More like alienating witnesses according to some reports.
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Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #346 on: February 23, 2018, 12:31:53 PM »
That doesn't explain why he, a businessman, felt the need to be interviewing witnesses.

It sure doesn't even get close to explaining the opprobrium directed to those doing something positive for Madeleine while ignoring the total lack of action by the forces of law and order in making any attempt to locate her or find out what happened to her.
To the extent of ignoring and filing every item of information sent to them since the archiving of the case in 2008 until it was discovered during the libel trial in 2010.

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Copies of the files would now be passed to the McCanns to be followed up by private investigators hired to search for their daughter.

"But I am angry because it is the Portuguese investigative police who should be doing this job,” Mrs Duarte, added.

"They have the power and capability to do it. It is they who should be doing it not and not my clients."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/7215353/Portuguese-police-ignored-Madeleine-McCann-leads.html


Why didn't that exposure of years of incompetence and neglect not cause as much as a ripple in fora land?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #347 on: February 23, 2018, 12:34:49 PM »
Martin Smith said that watching Gerry carrying his child down the airport steps reminded him of the man they encountered in Praia da Luz on the night of the 3rd May 2007.  Make of that what you may but Smith was sufficiently convinced that he immediately contacted his local Garda station.

Mr McCluskey reported his concerns immediately.  Mr Smith mulled it over for a bit before he did.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #348 on: February 23, 2018, 12:39:40 PM »
Martin Smith said that watching Gerry carrying his child down the airport steps reminded him of the man they encountered in Praia da Luz on the night of the 3rd May 2007.  Make of that what you may but Smith was sufficiently convinced that he immediately contacted his local Garda station.

He never said he looked like Gerry
There have been many sightings of maddie with people convinced they have seen her... Doesn't mean a thing... As the smith sighting doesn't as regards identifying gerry.. Imo

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #349 on: February 23, 2018, 12:42:09 PM »
More like alienating witnesses according to some reports.

I believe both the Smiths have voiced their support for the mccanns

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #350 on: February 23, 2018, 12:48:34 PM »
That is quite interesting when you think about it.  There was apoplexy in fora land about Brian Kennedy's visit to try to get Mr Smith to provide information for an efit of the man whose face he could not describe for the PJ.
The end of the hate campaign mounted against him for his efforts in helping Madeleine was marked by Carter Ruck and a public apology from the main man.

In the first instance ... why should it have been the responsibility of the victims to do a police job?  We are told Madeleine's case was never closed in Portugal ... so why weren't they pursuing the leads provided by Mr Smith et al and not the McCann detectives?

In the second ... where is the logic in criticising the victims when the professionals of Leicestershire and Portugal did nothing with the efits when they were finally obtained?

It never was the 'responsibility of the victims to do a police job', it was something they chose to do. Consequently it's legitimate to wonder why they chose to publicise certain leads and not others.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #351 on: February 23, 2018, 01:28:30 PM »
He never said he looked like Gerry
There have been many sightings of maddie with people convinced they have seen her... Doesn't mean a thing... As the smith sighting doesn't as regards identifying gerry.. Imo

Wrong.

''I would be 60 to 80% sure that it was Gerry McCann that I met that night carrying a child," Mr Smith said in his statement. ''It was the way Mr. McCann turned his head down that was similar... It may have been the way he was carrying his child.

''I am basing this on his mannerism, in the way he carried the child off the plane.''

Martin Smith statement.

He has however since stressed that he no longer believes the man he saw to be Gerry McCann.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 01:38:40 PM by Angelo222 »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #352 on: February 23, 2018, 01:31:09 PM »
Wrong.



''I would be 60 to 80% sure that it was Gerry McCann that I met that night carrying a child," Mr Smith said in his statement. ''It was the way Mr. McCann turned his head down that was similar... It may have been the way he was carrying his child.

''I am basing this on his mannerism, in the way he carried the child off the plane.''

Martin Smith statement

So where does he day he looked like Gerry... He doesn't..
You are the one who is clearly wrong and your cite proves it

He said he thought it was gerry based on the way he carried the child... That is clearly not saying he looked like gerry

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #353 on: February 23, 2018, 01:38:01 PM »

Can someone please tell me just how many ways there are in which to carry a child.

Offline Angelo222

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #354 on: February 23, 2018, 01:40:27 PM »
So where does he day he looked like Gerry... He doesn't..
You are the one who is clearly wrong and your cite proves it

He said he thought it was gerry based on the way he carried the child... That is clearly not saying he looked like gerry

Well the e-fits taken together certainly look like Gerry McCann.  Another big coincidence to add to the many?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #355 on: February 23, 2018, 01:41:25 PM »
Can someone please tell me just how many ways there are in which to carry a child.

Many but MS based his original comments on mannerisms too.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #356 on: February 23, 2018, 01:47:08 PM »
Well the e-fits taken together certainly look like Gerry McCann.  Another big coincidence to add to the many?

Smith didn't see his face properly and the edits, we're, drawn up after he had seen gerry on Tv.. No coincidence  at all to add to the many other non coincidences

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #357 on: February 23, 2018, 01:53:03 PM »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #358 on: February 23, 2018, 01:56:35 PM »
It sure doesn't even get close to explaining the opprobrium directed to those doing something positive for Madeleine while ignoring the total lack of action by the forces of law and order in making any attempt to locate her or find out what happened to her.
To the extent of ignoring and filing every item of information sent to them since the archiving of the case in 2008 until it was discovered during the libel trial in 2010.

Snip
Copies of the files would now be passed to the McCanns to be followed up by private investigators hired to search for their daughter.

"But I am angry because it is the Portuguese investigative police who should be doing this job,” Mrs Duarte, added.

"They have the power and capability to do it. It is they who should be doing it not and not my clients."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/7215353/Portuguese-police-ignored-Madeleine-McCann-leads.html


Why didn't that exposure of years of incompetence and neglect not cause as much as a ripple in fora land?

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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #359 on: February 23, 2018, 01:57:47 PM »
Ask Aoife.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/droghedaindependent/news/young-louth-scientists-put-projects-on-show-at-rds-27129916.html

That's it really.  There are only two ways.  Left or right shoulder.  However, if you get arm ache you can always swap to the other side, which is what I used to do.