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Offline jassi

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #375 on: February 23, 2018, 03:36:23 PM »
No, I wouldn't. They have other means available to them, apart from physically crawling around.  Even you should know that by now.
Or would you prefer a bit more wailing and breast beating in public?  Fat lot of good that would do.

Ok, what are these other means ? Trying to persuade the public to search instead?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #376 on: February 23, 2018, 03:45:56 PM »
Ok, what are these other means ? Trying to persuade the public to search instead?

Which country shall we start with?

Offline jassi

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #377 on: February 23, 2018, 03:47:20 PM »
Wherever you like
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #378 on: February 23, 2018, 03:52:28 PM »
Wherever you like

Which is better 2 people searching or 2 million people searching

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #379 on: February 23, 2018, 03:56:26 PM »
Wherever you like

I personally, can't be everywhere.  Where would you like to start?

Offline jassi

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #380 on: February 23, 2018, 04:12:10 PM »
I personally, can't be everywhere.  Where would you like to start?

I leave the choice to you. You're the one supposedly with the knowledge.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #381 on: February 23, 2018, 04:31:25 PM »
I leave the choice to you. You're the one supposedly with the knowledge.

No, I don't have any particular knowledge, and I have never said that I have.  Ordinary people can only keep their eyes open and be aware.  But if Madeleine isn't here then I am never going to see her.
But someone who is where Madeleine is might just do that.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #382 on: February 23, 2018, 05:20:30 PM »
Why did they "choose" to keep on investigating their daughter's disappearance in the hope of finding her ... for the very simple reason that no-one else was.
Not the people with the contacts the power and the duty ... only Madeleine's family and well wishers.

In my opinion utterly indefensible conduct by the forces of law and order.

It was still a choice, as was their decision to refrain from publicising the Smith sighting. Only in 2013 was the extent of their mistake revealed. They had been publicising the sighting of the wrong man and child for six years!
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #383 on: February 23, 2018, 05:27:19 PM »
It was still a choice, as was their decision to refrain from publicising the Smith sighting. Only in 2013 was the extent of their mistake revealed. They had been publicising the sighting of the wrong man and child for six years!

This is a distortion of events.  But what's new.

Offline Angelo222

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #384 on: February 23, 2018, 05:36:37 PM »
Why do Police Officers tell parents of missing children to stay at home?  I suppose they've got it wrong, Have they?

As it is, the parents have no right of entry and no right to question anyone, so all they can do is look in drains and wells and bins, in the hope of finding a dead body.

As for now, they can't even assume that it is their daughter without a DNA match, which they themselves can't get.

So, sad to say, it is you who is talking rubbish.  Without a scrap of logic to your comments.

That's not how it works in practice Eleanor, you've been watching too much Dixon of Dock Green.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #385 on: February 23, 2018, 05:37:49 PM »
So you still can't tell us how they could search... That's why I said it's, a ridiculous suggestion

Searching includes much more than knocking on doors and I don't mean that literally.  The problem for the McCanns however in my opinion is that they are seen as hate figures by many in the Luz area and no doubt have been warned by the police that their presence in the area is not recommended or their safety guaranteed.  That must be a first for the loving parents of any missing child surely?
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Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #386 on: February 23, 2018, 05:46:16 PM »
Searching includes much more than knocking on doors and I don't mean that literally.  The problem for the McCanns however in my opinion is that they are seen as hate figures by many in the Luz area and no doubt have been warned by the police that their presence in the area is not recommended or their safety guaranteed.  That must be a first for the loving parents of any missing child surely?

If that is true, in my opinion it reflects badly on the citizens of Luz.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #387 on: February 23, 2018, 05:52:34 PM »
Searching includes much more than knocking on doors and I don't mean that literally.  The problem for the McCanns however in my opinion is that they are seen as hate figures by many in the Luz area and no doubt have been warned by the police that their presence in the area is not recommended or their safety guaranteed.  That must be a first for the loving parents of any missing child surely?

So you can't give an example of how they can search.. And I agree, with Brietta..re your hate figure point

Offline Erngath

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #388 on: February 23, 2018, 06:12:32 PM »
Searching includes much more than knocking on doors and I don't mean that literally.  The problem for the McCanns however in my opinion is that they are seen as hate figures by many in the Luz area and no doubt have been warned by the police that their presence in the area is not recommended or their safety guaranteed.  That must be a first for the loving parents of any missing child surely?

Have the McCanns been warned by the police not to visit the Luz area?
Are their lives in danger?
Surely no one thinks this is acceptable!
I find this difficult to believe.

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #389 on: February 23, 2018, 06:14:37 PM »
It never was the 'responsibility of the victims to do a police job', it was something they chose to do. Consequently it's legitimate to wonder why they chose to publicise certain leads and not others.

In my opinion you are apportioning blame in entirely the wrong direction.  Why didn't the Portuguese police prioritise  any leads at all ... particularly the Smith efits forwarded to them ... which when you think about it must have ended up in the file marked "Not Relevant to the Investigation" which was compiled between 2008 and 2010.

Therefore did Paiva look at them before deciding they were irrelevant?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....