Crecheman's identity finally revealed

[faithlilly]

That wasn’t the question I asked you and you well know it.  I asked you why JT’s given time of 9.15pm for the sighting is the only part of her statement that you seem ready to believe is truthful?

I have been explained it. There is other testimony that throws her recollection into doubt.

Your turn.

[faithlilly]

Pure supposition.

I notice you are not questioning his reasoning. Why is that ?

[slartibartfast]

Libellous posts removed, please do not repeat.

[ShiningInLuz]

With what Mark Rowley was saying murder or occultation has no part in the solution as to what happened to Madeleine IMO.

That appears to make Madeleine alive.

Which she may or may not be.

I put as much trust in the utterances of AC Rowley as I do in the utterances of DCI Redwood.   

[jassi]

That appears to make Madeleine alive.

Which she may or may not be.

I put as much trust in the utterances of AC Rowley as I do in the utterances of DCI Redwood.   

I'll trump your Redwood and Rowley with Hogan-Howe, who said it was a murder investigation

[Angelo222]

The balcony of Jane's apartment was at the rear of the property, so there would have been no view from there of Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva.

There is also a public balcony at the front, possibily that is the vantage point he was referring to.

[Angelo222]

I disagree because if the theory is correct, then the whole of the Tapas group would have participated in providing false information that could have hindered the police in that they went along with a falsified time line

Maybe they did to save their own sorry asses?

[jassi]

Maybe they did to save their own sorry asses?

Strong motivation for selfish people.

Greater honesty from the beginning might have led to a resolution many years ago.  IMO

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have been explained it. There is other testimony that throws her recollection into doubt.

Your turn.

Again, despite the fact that you claim JT's recollection has been thrown into doubt, you refuse to say why you are adamant she was correct about the time she saw the man carrying the child.  I guess I won't get a straight answer, no matter how many times I ask.  As for me, I do not think JT is a dishonest witness, but I do believe there is a smallish margin of error on the timings of not just her statements, but everyone's.  I believe her when she says she walked past Gerry and Jez and saw the man with child immeditely thereafter, I think if she saw this man much later as Heriberto states then the man himself Totman would have said "it couldn't have been me, as I walked past earlier that evening".  That's what I think.  Full and frank disclosure of my thoughts on the matter.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I notice you are not questioning his reasoning. Why is that ?

I have answered - see above.

[misty]

There is also a public balcony at the front, possibily that is the vantage point he was referring to.

Jane's apartment was on the ground floor. What would she have been doing on the first floor balcony?

[Eleanor]

I think it is entirely possible that Jane Tanner saw an abductor at 9.15, and that he had to stay in hiding while waiting for a meeting to hand over the child at around 10pm.
I  cannot see how Mr Totman was the man Jane Tanner saw when he was coming from entirely the wrong direction.
We simply do not know enough about Mr Totman's statement.  Although Andy Redwood's possible conclusions do suggest that Mr. Totman walked by much later.

[John]

I think it is entirely possible that Jane Tanner saw an abductor at 9.15, and that he had to stay in hiding while waiting for a meeting to hand over the child at around 10pm.
I  cannot see how Mr Totman was the man Jane Tanner saw when he was coming from entirely the wrong direction.
We simply do not know enough about Mr Totman's statement.  Although Andy Redwood's possible conclusions do suggest that Mr. Totman walked by much later.

It is a bit strange I agree.  If Dr Totman was resident in Block 4 and was returning from the night creche located above OC Reception then why was he walking from west to east past Block 5 and not the other way round?

[Mr Gray]

That appears to make Madeleine alive.

Which she may or may not be.

I put as much trust in the utterances of AC Rowley as I do in the utterances of DCI Redwood.   

How much trust do you put in the utterances of amaral... I put far more trust in the, statements by the two UK officers

[John]

Jane's apartment was on the ground floor. What would she have been doing on the first floor balcony?

Could she have visited the Payne apartment?