Author Topic: It has never been explained why Julian Totman was walking the wrong way?  (Read 43468 times)

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Offline Brietta

The initial investigation could have found everybody booked into the OC.  They had the booking sheets.

Is there any relevance to this?

The relevance is that you posted the possibility his name had been leaked.  I'm pointing out a little basic research with the information which is in the public domain combined with a process of elimination might well have been employed to find it ~ just as Reis had done in 2009 although he was not specifically investigating Totman.  If his focus had not been conspiracy theories but creche records etc ~ who knows what might have come of it.
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Offline G-Unit

The initial investigation could have found everybody booked into the OC.  They had the booking sheets.

Is there any relevance to this?

There's nothing in the files to suggest who 'Crecheman' was, so I think it's unlikely that he was 'found' by a journalist. I think this story is a leak to the Sun, which seems to be the source copied by other newspapers. Why it should be leaked is the question.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

There's nothing in the files to suggest who 'Crecheman' was, so I think it's unlikely that he was 'found' by a journalist. I think this story is a leak to the Sun, which seems to be the source copied by other newspapers. Why it should be leaked is the question.
Isn’t there a quote in the article from his wife though?
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Offline Robittybob1

Isn’t there a quote in the article from his wife though?
She could be the link.   She seems willing to talk.
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Offline G-Unit

Isn’t there a quote in the article from his wife though?



Perhaps someone telephoned her with questions and she responded. If so, the Totmans weren't the source of the story. If it came from Scotland Yard it was an unauthorised leak because they kept the man's identity secret for years.
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Offline G-Unit

She could be the link.   She seems willing to talk.

Allegedly the Totmans were friendly with the Weinburgers. Mrs Weinburger has been mentioned by the media also; I believe she spoke to Dave Edgar at some point.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Perhaps someone telephoned her with questions and she responded. If so, the Totmans weren't the source of the story. If it came from Scotland Yard it was an unauthorised leak because they kept the man's identity secret for years.
Speculation.
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Offline slartibartfast

Speculation.

The perhaps is a bit of a give away.
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Offline G-Unit

Speculation.

In my opinion this article wasn't the work of an investigative journalist, it was a leaked story. You commented that Mrs Totman was quoted. I don't know what you were inferring, but it doesn't mean the story wasn't leaked imo.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

In my opinion this article wasn't the work of an investigative journalist, it was a leaked story. You commented that Mrs Totman was quoted. I don't know what you were inferring, but it doesn't mean the story wasn't leaked imo.
I was pointing out facts, not speculating, that is all.
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Offline Robittybob1

An interesting event - a new video from Bogart and its about Totman.  He is totally wrong IMO but what he says has brought one firm conclusion from me:  Jane Tanner did not see Julian Totman carrying his daughter!  https://youtu.be/iB5inXUmrG0

See if you can come to the same conclusion.
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Offline Robittybob1

An interesting event - a new video from Bogart and its about Totman.  He is totally wrong IMO but what he says has brought one firm conclusion from me:  Jane Tanner did not see Julian Totman carrying his daughter!  https://youtu.be/iB5inXUmrG0

See if you can come to the same conclusion.
If Julian Totman's daughter was wearing those pyjamas with the dark orange bands- Jane did not see the bands therefore I'd say she didn't see his daughter, but Jane's sketch's similarity to Julian Totman is "uncanny". That is my current opinion.
[Note correction of colour of bands on pyjamas.  Originally I said blue but they are actually orange.]
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Do we know in which direction Dr Totman was walking ? Has anyone done anything but assume a direction. Clearly neither he nor his wife quoted a direction. The Met are silent on the topic.
There could have been a genuine explicable error in Jane Tanners sighting she obviously confused right and left.
cf where Gerry and Jez were standing.
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Offline jassi

Do we know in which direction Dr Totman was walking ? Has anyone done anything but assume a direction. Clearly neither he nor his wife quoted a direction. The Met are silent on the topic.
There could have been a genuine explicable error in Jane Tanners sighting she obviously confused right and left.
cf where Gerry and Jez were standing.


Perhaps she really didn't know whether people were coming or going.  8(>((
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Offline Brietta

There's nothing in the files to suggest who 'Crecheman' was, so I think it's unlikely that he was 'found' by a journalist. I think this story is a leak to the Sun, which seems to be the source copied by other newspapers. Why it should be leaked is the question.

Paulo Reis named him in a blog in 2009.

The files contain a mass uncollated information information.  There is nothing in them marked with a huge red arrow indicating "I am Tannerman".  But his name is in the files.

Reis did the research. 

Reis found his name in the files. 

Reis did not make the connection because he was intent on "researching" a different theory at the time.

The initial investigation put his name into the file.

The initial investigation did not connect him to anything because they were intent on working on a different theory at the time.

His name however remained in the file and required no one to leak it from another source  ... all they had to do was a little research as Reis did in 2009 and the PJ did not in 2007 ... but this time round researching his connection to the creche and his connection to apartment block 4.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....