Question about Nevill's watch

[mrswah]

Enough.  Let's get back on topic.  Thank you!

[Aunt Agatha]

There are a couple of posts with similar wording. 

Keep trying!!

[The General]

Why do you keep changing your posts?

The above initially read,

“A line has been drawn and this is not part of the case and has no interest other than to those who wish to pry

I’ve been very open and honest and the line has been drawn now

Thank you for your understanding”

There were two very similar posts.

[Nicholas]

There are a couple of posts with similar wording. 

Keep trying!!

Was distracted elsewhere - but recognise I was mistaken, so apologies for that.

I’m unsure why you’ve  posted ‘keep trying’

[Nicholas]

There were two very similar posts.

Was distracted elsewhere - but recognise I was mistaken, so apologies for that.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

You throw out "LIES" with the frequency of a purist who sticks to the letter of it's meaning, ie an untruth, but I think some consideration must be given to whether the lie was intended to deceive, or whether it was a long held belief having it's roots somewhere other, further, of what benefit would deliberately lying about trivia be?

Well, as Jeremy Bamber is a proven pathological liar, it’s fair to say that not anyone can believe a word he says.

It could be that this box belonged to his grandmother, but I can’t see why she’d lie to him and say her husband made it for her...

The detail in it is too intricate to be homemade, and I’m sure, even though people who knew Jeremy well said he wasn’t particularly bright, he’d have realised it was factory made.

I don’t really care, in truth, it doesn’t detract from the fact he murdered all his family

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I put it to you that not a single person here has read or seen anything about SC having her nails professionally manicured and polished in MV.  If I'm wrong others here will prove it.

Re destroyed items it was DS Jones who initiated this and asked JB to authorise but these items had no evidential value.  If you disagree please explain what evidence you think was lost.

Holly, please stop adopting the tone of a QC cross examining. You’re not legally trained, and I’m posting on a forum, I’m not in court.

I’ve TOLD you previously, more than once, that I’ve both read and heard that Sheila had her nails manicured. She probably did them herself too, when she was well, but she also had them manicured.

You seem hellbent on her fingernails, but don’t you think the EXPERTS, the LEGAL TEAM, and everyone else involved in the court case would combed through all this evidence in 1985? They clearly thought it irrelevant, as like you yourself claimed yesterday — your nails “never chip”😌, so maybe Sheila wore the same polish as you. Maybe she’d had her nails painted just days before...you have no idea what she was doing in Maida Vale.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

You throw out "LIES" with the frequency of a purist who sticks to the letter of it's meaning, ie an untruth, but I think some consideration must be given to whether the lie was intended to deceive, or whether it was a long held belief having it's roots somewhere other, further, of what benefit would deliberately lying about trivia be?

Actually, rereading your post, April, I realise I’d missed your point.

It’s highly likely that Jeremy would have lied and made out the box was a “precious, sentimental, handmade gift” that had belonged to his “beloved grandmother” — the same grandmother who cut him out his will and which he tried get overturned...

Devious psychopaths will indeed make out to naive women that they’re giving them something precious in order to make the woman feel special and important. He actually told Daisy when his mask fell, that he’d never even LIKED her, and the truth always comes out when one is angry...

[APRIL]

Actually, rereading your post, April, I realise I’d missed your point.

It’s highly likely that Jeremy would have lied and made out the box was a “precious, sentimental, handmade gift” that had belonged to his “beloved grandmother) — the same grandmother who cut him out his will and which he tried get overturned...

Devious psychopaths will indeed make out to naive women that they’re giving them something precious in order to to make the woman feel special and important. He actually told Agatha when his mask fell, that he’d never even LIKED her, and the truth always comes out when one is angry...

I concur. However, when an adult resorts to telling an adult friend that they'd never liked them, it sounds to me more like an angry/hurt child having a hissy fit, maybe as a result of feeling their self to be rejected?

[Aunt Agatha]

Actually, rereading your post, April, I realise I’d missed your point.

It’s highly likely that Jeremy would have lied and made out the box was a “precious, sentimental, handmade gift” that had belonged to his “beloved grandmother) — the same grandmother who cut him out his will and which he tried get overturned...

Devious psychopaths will indeed make out to naive women that they’re giving them something precious in order to to make the woman feel special and important. He actually told Agatha when his mask fell, that he’d never even LIKED her, and the truth always comes out when one is angry...

Hold on!

Where does it state that I said he didn't like his grandmother?

[APRIL]

Hold on!

Where does it state that I said he didn't like his grandmother?

The post doesn't make that claim. Well, it's not how I read it.

[Holly Goodhead]

Holly, please stop adopting the tone of a QC cross examining. You’re not legally trained, and I’m posting on a forum, I’m not in court.

I’ve TOLD you previously, more than once, that I’ve both read and heard that Sheila had her nails manicured. She probably did them herself too, when she was well, but she also had them manicured.

You seem hellbent on her fingernails, but don’t you think the EXPERTS, the LEGAL TEAM, and everyone else involved in the court case would combed through all this evidence in 1985? They clearly thought it irrelevant, as like you yourself claimed yesterday — your nails “never chip”😌, so maybe Sheila wore the same polish as you. Maybe she’d had her nails painted just days before...you have no idea what she was doing in Maida Vale.

Much of what is discussed here would not make it to court but as you said we're not at court we're here on a forum.  So since you keep telling us SC had her nails professionally manicured in MV it shouldn't be difficult for you to tell us  where and by whom.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I believe you are genuine in what you state Aunt Agatha but not sure if you are aware you’ve potentially (I say ‘potentially’ as I don’t believe Bamber’s case is going anywhere) created a problem for Bamber & his representatives as I’ve pointed out here

You know Bamber’s narrative has changed and I don’t believe you would lie about this fact

You stated here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358367.html#msg358367

“Based on what we knew at the beginning we believed the silencer was used........upon revelations he changed his mind.  When we last spoke he believed the silencer was not used”

Oooh, Jeremy Bamber changed his story, again? What a surprise!

So he told Agatha in 1993 that he believed the silencer WAS used.  He seems to have forgotten that lie, or changed his tune, and then said he believed it wasn’t....no wonder the courts are sick to the teeth of his BS.

Can I ask who he’s supposed to be Godfather to? I think you’re referring to Agatha, but she didn’t know him and had never met him until 1993, so how could he be Godfather to her children?! Did he go to the Christening in handcuffs?

This is becoming extremely distasteful.

The evil psychopath who shot dead his two six-year-old nephews was invited to be GODFATHER to “Aunt Agatha’s” children?! This is insanity at its worst.

[Aunt Agatha]

The post doesn't make that claim. Well, it's not how I read it.

Yes it does!!

[Nicholas]

Then come back and say how he managed to give you his belongings when even he doesn’t have access to them?

Think the confusion may lie in the telling of how the items came to be in Aunt Ags possession

More likely,

They’ll be items given to her by police

And items given to her by prison staff

Prisoners can and do hand out property - the cut off pony tail would have come from Bamber in prison, handed to a prison officer then handed to Aunt Agatha

If Aunt Agatha hasn’t thrown anything away, as she claims, she may well have the paperwork somewhere? Who knows?

Some of her original posts here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358271.html#msg358271 were removed so it can be confusing

“Here are some items, still looking for Cartier.  I've put it somewhere safe and cannot find it.  :))

Here we have;

His hair,
His Seiko watch/computer ( which he was able to use in those days),
His camera, with original film still inside. Have never had it processed.



She originally posted photographs but then removed them. Not sure if they are the same photos she’s posted on this forum without seeing what she posted originally