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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2018, 07:16:00 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2018, 07:06:31 PM
The time must have been very near to what Mrs Fenn remembers as she called her friend Edna about it and what old woman calls anther old woman later that 11.45 ? Further you say Mrs Fenn may have been hard of hearing yet she did hear a child. Why didn’t the McCanns or their friends on their half hourly checks ?

With hearing loss it's, all about frequencies
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2018, 07:17:15 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on June 17, 2018, 05:10:14 PM
The police were certainly sure of Mrs Fenn's report.

The Truth of the Lie - Goncalo Amaral

1st May 2007

"For an hour and a quarter, between 10.30 and 11.45pm,  in the apartment where she is in the company of her brother and her sister, Madeleine does not stop crying and calling out for her father. She does not calm down until after her parents return."

Amarals book contains several things that are not true... It is not a reliable  source
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #107 on: June 17, 2018, 07:50:40 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2018, 07:17:15 PM
Amarals book contains several things that are not true... It is not a reliable  source

Mrs Fenn’s statement, saying the same thing, is in the files.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #108 on: June 17, 2018, 07:55:02 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2018, 07:50:40 PM
Mrs Fenn’s statement, saying the same thing, is in the files.

As is Kate's statement saying the window was open
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #109 on: June 17, 2018, 07:56:38 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2018, 07:55:02 PM
As is Kate's statement saying the window was open

It was you who stated that if it’s uncorroborated then it can’t be relied upon, not me. Kate’s claim about the open window isn’t.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #110 on: June 17, 2018, 07:57:39 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2018, 07:56:38 PM
It was you who stated that if it’s uncorroborated then it can’t be relied upon, not me. Kate’s claim about the open window isn’t.

I never mentioned... Can't be relied upon... Cite please


This is the second time today I'm being accused by a sceptic of saying something I haven't... Try and be more precise
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #111 on: June 17, 2018, 07:59:59 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2018, 07:57:39 PM
I never mentioned... Can't be relied upon... Cite please

So they can be relied upon ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #112 on: June 17, 2018, 08:00:47 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
So they can be relied upon ?

Let's have the cite first... Or retract the statement... Then I will be glad to answer
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #113 on: June 17, 2018, 08:07:18 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2018, 08:00:47 PM
Let's have the cite first... Or retract the statement... Then I will be glad to answer

I was paraphrasing. Are you claiming you never said it ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #114 on: June 17, 2018, 08:08:51 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2018, 08:07:18 PM
I was paraphrasing. Are you claiming you never said it ?

I. Never said your quoted words.... So cite
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #115 on: June 17, 2018, 08:09:43 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2018, 08:08:51 PM
I. Never said your quoted words....

So are you saying uncobborated statements are reliable ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #116 on: June 17, 2018, 08:10:36 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 17, 2018, 08:09:43 PM
So are you saying uncobborated statements are reliable ?

I said I will answer after retraction or cite
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #117 on: June 17, 2018, 08:15:36 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 17, 2018, 08:10:36 PM
I said I will answer after retraction or cite

I retract my paraphrasing of your comment  @)(++(*

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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #118 on: June 17, 2018, 08:15:47 PM »
Quote from: Carana on June 17, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
The thing is, there was no corroboration as to where the sound was coming from nor about the time. How many other kids could have been in that block that night? Some flats had private owners, so not necessarily on a package holiday list. Was that checked out?

This backs up Mrs Fenn's statement. They left the tapas at around midnight and didn't check every 30 minutes as they claimed.

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #119 on: June 17, 2018, 08:16:56 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on June 17, 2018, 08:15:47 PM
This backs up Mrs Fenn's statement. They left the tapas at around midnight and didn't check every 30 minutes as they claimed.


Well they couldn’t have or they would have heard the crying child Mars Fenn heard.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?
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