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Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2018, 03:10:46 PM »
I have mentioned before,  but I will mention it again,  I believe the crying was the Tuesday night.   Kate mentioned to Fiona that Madeleine had said she and Sean had been crying.   On the Tuesday night Amelie woke up crying,  in my opinion this then woke Sean and Madeleine,  Sean cried and then Madeleine called 'Daddy daddy'  and went into the McCann's bedroom.


Children of almost four don't understand the meaning of 'last night, the night before etc.'   my daughter always said 'yesterday'  when she meant anytime before the present day.

But that’s not what even the McCanns say.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2018, 03:15:41 PM »
Why not ? Because your bias just screams it can’t be?

No because factually it is an uncorroborated statement... Do you disagree.. Who has corroborated it

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2018, 03:17:49 PM »
Are you suggesting that Kate was lying when she mentioned that Maddie asked them where they werewhen they were crying?  Are you also suggesting that Maddie didn't know there was crying in their room by the children? or are you just doing 'a Kate'?  slag off anyone who does not agree with her ?
What I'm saying is Mrs fenns statement is uncorroborated...

Offline Lace

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2018, 03:19:54 PM »
But that’s not what even the McCanns say.

When questioned about the statement given by Mrs. Fenn they said it wasn't true that Madeleine cried on the Tuesday night and came into their room.

In my opinion Kate only thought Madeleine might have been disturbed on the Wednesday night because she found a stain on her pyjama's which she thought might have been someone trying to sedate her.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2018, 03:20:05 PM »
But that’s not what even the McCanns say.


No they don't  say that, and funnily enough they were there that night... well for some of it anyway, but that won't stop people for taking an eraser and re writing what should have happened.

The scrutiny, ie police investigation, certainly crushed most of it. That is what makes em the baddie in all this.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2018, 04:42:26 PM by John »
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2018, 03:24:07 PM »
When questioned about the statement given by Mrs. Fenn they said it wasn't true that Madeleine cried on the Tuesday night and came into their room.

In my opinion Kate only thought Madeleine might have been disturbed on the Wednesday night because she found a stain on her pyjama's which she thought might have been someone trying to sedate her.


hmmm oh really.  the stain was a drug to sedate was it, well Kate being an anaesthetist would know what kind of sedating drug this would be does she mention  this, I mean if she suspected her daughter of being drugged  by someone then why did she go out and leave her alone  to be drugged again? Why would anyone want to drug a child?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Lace

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2018, 03:27:58 PM »
No they don't  say that, and funnily enough they were there that night... well for some of it anyway, but that won't stop people for taking an eraser and re writing what should have happened.

The scrutiny, ie police investigation, certainly crushed most of it. That is what makes em the baddie in all this.

The McCann's said they didn't know when the crying that Madeleine was talking about took place and that Madeleine dismissed it and walked away.

It seems to me that you are taking an eraser and re writing what should have happened,  how many times have we heard 'Madeleine cried the night before'   no that is not true,  the McCann's themselves don't know when the crying incident took place.   In my opionion it was the Tuesday night.

« Last Edit: June 17, 2018, 04:43:19 PM by John »

Offline Lace

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2018, 03:31:12 PM »

hmmm oh really.  the stain was a drug to sedate was it, well Kate being an anaesthetist would know what kind of sedating drug this would be does she mention  this, I mean if she suspected her daughter of being drugged  by someone then why did she go out and leave her alone  to be drugged again? Why would anyone want to drug a child?

[ removed ]  Kate found the stain on Madeleines pyjama's the morning of the 3rd of May,  how was she supposed to know that Madeleine was going to disappear?   An abductor trying to sedate her child would never have entered her head,  a tea stain I think she thought it was at the time.

How would Kate know what every sedating drug would look like?
« Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 03:40:41 PM by John »

Offline John

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2018, 03:38:24 PM »
What I'm saying is Mrs fenns statement is uncorroborated...

Mrs Fenn had no motive to lie imo.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 04:49:33 PM by Angelo222 »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2018, 03:43:49 PM »
Mrs Fenn had no motive to lie imo.

Oh dear... Who has accused her of lying... I'm 100% certain mrs Fenn was not lying... But she could have been mistaken
« Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 03:49:46 PM by Davel »

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2018, 03:50:23 PM »
[ removed ]  Kate found the stain on Madeleines pyjama's the morning of the 3rd of May,  how was she supposed to know that Madeleine was going to disappear?   An abductor trying to sedate her child would never have entered her head,  a tea stain I think she thought it was at the time.

How would Kate know what every sedating drug would look like?


Well she must know... she mentions it- all be it after the fact. filed in the  'just remembered' file.  The parents can't recall which night their daughter cried- oh how convenient as long at it shows up Mrs Fen and their daughter to be wrong then that is all good and well.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2018, 04:25:56 PM »
No because factually it is an uncorroborated statement... Do you disagree.. Who has corroborated it

So is Kate’s claim that the window was open when she entered the children’s bedroom ? Multiple witnesses failed to see it. Is that an uncorroborated statement was too because it’s the only spec of evidence that speaks of abduction ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2018, 04:27:38 PM »
When questioned about the statement given by Mrs. Fenn they said it wasn't true that Madeleine cried on the Tuesday night and came into their room.

In my opinion Kate only thought Madeleine might have been disturbed on the Wednesday night because she found a stain on her pyjama's which she thought might have been someone trying to sedate her.

But they weren’t there when Madeleine cried so how would they know?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2018, 04:28:18 PM »
So is Kate’s claim that the window was open when she entered the children’s bedroom ? Multiple witnesses failed to see it. Is that an uncorroborated statement was too because it’s the only spec of evidence that speaks of abduction ?

Of course it's uncorroborated....as is mrs Fenns statement...
« Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 04:47:00 PM by Angelo222 »

Offline faithlilly

Re: What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2018, 04:31:37 PM »
[ removed ]  Kate found the stain on Madeleines pyjama's the morning of the 3rd of May,  how was she supposed to know that Madeleine was going to disappear?   An abductor trying to sedate her child would never have entered her head,  a tea stain I think she thought it was at the time.

How would Kate know what every sedating drug would look like?

So how was this liquid drug administered, how long did it take to work and why wasn’t Madeleine displaying the after effects the next day ( or she wasn’t in any of Kate’s statements, not until Madeleine. Nice but not too clever bit of retrofitting)?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?