What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?

[jassi]

Fair enough!
You obviously believe that there should have been no forensic testing of either Madeleine's bedding or Cuddle Cat.

That's not what I have said.

I am questioning when these things should have been collected for analysis, bearing in mind that it was initially being treated as a wandering child.


Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[Erngath]

That's not what I have said.

I am questioning when these things should have been collected for analysis, bearing in mind that it was initially being treated as a wandering child.


Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Perhaps it should not have been treated a a wandering child.
Perhaps the thought she hadn't wandered should have been considered.
And perhaps the bedding should at least have been bagged and kept and perhaps tested ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

That's not what I have said.

I am questioning when these things should have been collected for analysis, bearing in mind that it was initially being treated as a wandering child.


Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

How long was the case treated as one of a wandering child?

[jassi]

Don't know, but there were people searching around PDL area for several days, I believe.

[Miss Taken Identity]

How long was the case treated as one of a wandering child?

Only when the policec arrived- JT has a chat about a possible abduction taking place right before her very eyes.

But then we also get the initial scream from Kate about them taking her and moving doors/ whooching curtains etc.

Oh i don't know it is too confusing.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Don't know, but there were people searching around PDL area for several days, I believe.

According to Amaral, the parents were under suspicion from day one so no excuse not to have bagged up bedding and toy for forensic examination imo.

[jassi]

According to Amaral, the parents were under suspicion from day one so no excuse not to have bagged up bedding and toy for forensic examination imo.

Why ask the question if you already knew the answer ?

[barrier]

Aside from the possibility that human remains in the form of ashes might have been stored in 5a there are numerous personal items which might have been returned from a deceased person such as clothing, watches, jewelry etc.

Even someone being in direct contact with a deceased person could bring back contaminants because we know how easily cadaver odour is spread and how difficult it is to get rid of.

How long is it likely to be left on a cadaver,not forgetting the circa 90 minutes for scent to develop.Once they are pronounced its straight down the morgue and it would be the sensible course of action to remove any jewellery to be handed to a relative,if its not already been removed at hospitalisation.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why ask the question if you already knew the answer ?

Why not? 

[Robittybob1]

"The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Completely the opposite to what has been discussed here.

[Lace]

That's not what I have said.

I am questioning when these things should have been collected for analysis, bearing in mind that it was initially being treated as a wandering child.


Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

The bedding on Madeleine's bed was tested for a sedating  drug.    So they were thinking 'abduction'  so why didn't they test for any skin cells on the bedding?    Could have been done first.   IMO

[barrier]

The bedding on Madeleine's bed was tested for a sedating  drug.    So they were thinking 'abduction'  so why didn't they test for any skin cells on the bedding?    Could have been done first.   IMO

Do forensics search for that,I'm far from an expert but on recent documentaries on tv following live police investigations,semen,hair and blood seem to be the ones looked for.

[barrier]

The bedding on Madeleine's bed was tested for a sedating  drug.    So they were thinking 'abduction'  so why didn't they test for any skin cells on the bedding?    Could have been done first.   IMO

Nothing to be garnered from cells per se as of yet it seems.Dated 2018.

https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2018/10/iarpa-wants-identify-criminals-their-skin-cells/151978/

IARPA recently launched the Proteos program, which will explore ways to use proteins extracted from skin cells to connect individuals to crime scenes and other forensic evidence.

[jassi]

The bedding on Madeleine's bed was tested for a sedating  drug.    So they were thinking 'abduction'  so why didn't they test for any skin cells on the bedding?    Could have been done first.   IMO

Yes it was, but when was it taken into custody ?
When did the idea of possible sedation first arise ?

[pathfinder73]

Completely the opposite to what has been discussed here.

1. MG is an expert witness

2. The investigation needs to prove that the victim died and that will corroborate the alerts.