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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: ferryman on June 07, 2013, 03:19:52 PM
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I'd not noticed this before:
Thank You Note
4 Dec 2011
Dear friends,
My name is Gonçalo Amaral. I am a former Criminal Investigation Coordinator, and the author of the book “Maddie – The Truth about the Lie”, written with the purpose of contributing to the discovery of material truth and the performance of justice, and under the perspective of reinstating my reputation that was blackened in public.
This book was written under the use of my full rights, and stands as a technical opinion that is based on facts, indications and events that are part of the process that underlies the investigation into the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In September this year, an injunction was granted without previously hearing the defendant, based on lies and abusive interpretations of the intentions that were behind the creation of said book.
In order to render the defence of my rights more difficult, a request for damages worth 1.200.000 euros was filed, followed by the arrest of rights and goods.
The strategy of those who continue to dirty us was simple: the man is silenced, and the path to influence attitudes and behaviours, through the manipulation of public opinion at their pleasure, is opened. A campaign to discredit and to misinform is under way, at the same time as they try to asphyxiate us financially, in order to win the case without having to go to trial.
We will not conform to the limitation of our fundamental rights, through unconstitutional judicial decisions that put the responsible exercise of free expression at stake.
I thank all those who over the last couple of years have supported me, and who have signed the public petitions over the last days, as well as those who, through financial effort towards the recently created fund and a demonstration of solidarity, have reinforced my belief in the defence of values that should shape modern and democratic societies, freedom of expression, the discovery of the truth and the performance of justice.
As far as I’m concerned, I commit myself to embody the hopes of all of you, and not to give up, despite the survival of my own family being at stake, but the defence of those values and principles is essential.
To all, a heartfelt thank you.
Portimão, 2009-12-03
Gonçalo Amaral
What is meant by the part I underline?
Sounds a bit sinister to me ...
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I guess he's referring to the CEDH (he would go there if necessary).
Not sinister.
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Erm, b....r The Law and The Human Rights of other people?
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Erm, b....r The Law and The Human Rights of other people?
That's how it came across to me: we will not conform to the limitation of our human rights
We will go and above beyond them?
Beyond what the law allows in striking back?
Maybe something different is meant.
Dunno ...
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That's how it came across to me: we will not conform to the limitation of our human rights
We will go and above beyond them?
Beyond what the law allows in striking back?
Maybe something different is meant.
Dunno ...
I don't think so. The PJ, certainly in Portimao, have been above and beyond the Human Rights of other people for a very long time.
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Could it simply mean he would appeal to the European Court of Human Rights ?
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We will not conform to the limitation of our fundamental rights, through unconstitutional judicial decisions that put the responsible exercise of free expression at stake.
Could something have been lost in translation? I don't recall having seen the original of this.
If this is indeed what he meant, it does seem a bit, erm, strange.
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Here is the original PT Version
Caros amigos,
O meu nome é Gonçalo Amaral. Fui coordenador de Investigação Criminal e sou o autor do livro “Maddie, A Verdade da Mentira”, escrito com o intuito de contribuir para a descoberta da verdade material e a realização da justiça, e na perspectiva de repor o meu bom nome aviltado na praça pública.
Este livro foi escrito no uso da plenitude dos meus direitos, tratando-se de uma opinião técnica e fundamentada em factos, indícios e acontecimentos constantes no processo de suporte à investigação do misterioso desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann.
Em Setembro do corrente ano foi interposta uma providência cautelar, sem audiência prévia do interessado, fundamentada em mentiras e interpretações abusivas das intenções que estiveram por detrás da criação daquela obra.
De forma a dificultar a defesa dos meus direitos foi igualmente interposto um pedido de indemnização no valor de 1.200.000 Euros, seguido do arresto de direitos e bens.
A estratégia daqueles que nos continuam a enxovalhar foi simples: cala-se o homem e fica o caminho aberto para influenciar atitudes e comportamentos, através da manipulação da opinião pública, a seu belo prazer. Está em curso uma campanha de descredibilização e de desinformação, ao mesmo tempo que nos tentam asfixiar financeiramente, de forma a ganharem na secretaria.
Não nos conformamos com a limitação dos nossos direitos fundamentais por decisões judiciais inconstitucionais que põem em causa o exercício da liberdade de expressão responsável.
Agradeço a todos aqueles que ao longo dos últimos anos me têm apoiado e que nos últimos dias assinaram as petições públicas, bem como aos que através de um esforço financeiro para o fundo de apoio recém criado e através de uma demonstração de solidariedade reforçaram a minha crença na defesa de valores que devem enformar as sociedades modernas e democráticas, a liberdade de expressão, a descoberta da verdade e a realização da justiça.
Da minha parte comprometo-me a dar corpo aos anseios de todos vós e a não desistir, apesar de estar em causa a sobrevivência da minha própria família; mas a defesa daqueles valores e princípios é essencial.
A todos, um sentido obrigado.
Portimão, 2009-12-03
Gonçalo Amaral
With Google Translate
Dear friends,
My name is Gonçalo Amaral. I was coordinator of Criminal Investigation and am the author of the book "Maddie, The Truth of the Lie", written with the intention of contributing to the discovery of material truth and the realization of justice and the prospect of restoring my good name vilified in the public square .
This book was written in the use of the fulness of my rights, in the case of a technical opinion and based on facts, evidence and events contained in the process of research support from the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In September this year an injunction was filed without prior hearing of interested, based on lies and incorrect interpretations of the intentions that were behind the creation of that work.
In order to hamper the defense of my rights has also brought a claim in the amount of 1.2 million Euros, followed by the arrest of rights and property.
The strategy of those who continue to tarnish us was simple: shut up man and the path is open to influence attitudes and behaviors through the manipulation of public opinion, at your leisure. There is an ongoing campaign to discredit and misinformation, while we try to strangle financially in order to win the office.
We are not satisfied with the limitation of our fundamental rights unconstitutional by court decisions that undermine the exercise of freedom of expression responsibly.
I thank all those who over the past few years and have supported me in recent days signed petitions public as well as to that through a financial effort to fund and support newly created through a show of solidarity reinforced my belief in defense of the values that are shaping modern democratic societies, freedom of expression, the discovery of the truth and achieving justice.
For my part I commit myself to embody the aspirations of all of you and do not give up, despite being in the survival of my own family, but the defense of those values and principles is essential.
In all, a heartfelt thanks.
Portimão, 2009-12-03
Gonçalo Amaral
Bing Translator
Dear friends,
My name is Gonçalo Amaral. Criminal investigation coordinator and I am the author of the book "Maddie, the truth of the Lie", written with the aim of contributing to the discovery of truth and the material justice, and in order to restore my good name demeaned in the public square.
This book was written in the use of the fullness of my rights, in the case of a technical opinion and based on facts, evidence and constant events in the process of research support of the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In September of the current year was filed an injunction, without prior hearing of the person concerned, based on lies and abusive interpretations of the intentions that were behind the creation of that work.
In order to make the protection of my rights was also brought a claim for damages in the amount of Eur 1,200,000, followed by the arrest of rights and goods.
The strategy of those who continue to enxovalhar was simple: shut up man and is the path open to influence attitudes and behaviours, through manipulation of public opinion, its beautiful. There is a credibility and disinformation campaign, at the same time we try to stifle financially in order to win in the Secretariat.
We are not satisfied with the limitations of our fundamental rights by unconstitutional judicial decisions that call into question the exercise of the freedom of expression.
Thank you to all those who over the past few years I have supported and that in recent days signed public petitions, as well as those who through a financial effort for the newly created and support fund through a demonstration of solidarity reinforced my belief in the values that should shape the modern and democratic societies, freedom of expression, the discovery of truth and justice.
On my part I pledge to give body to the concerns of all and not give up, even though it is concerned the survival of my own family; but the defence of those values and principles is essential.
To all, a thank you.
Portimao, 12/3/2009
Gonçalo Amaral
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Could it simply mean he would appeal to the European Court of Human Rights ?
I said above I guessed this and I still do !
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There isn't a single thing else that I can think of to say. Leave Portugal to it's own devices and it's own abused citizens.
The Libel Trial will pan out, and whatever happens it will not affect the search for Madeleine.
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There isn't a single thing else that I can think of to say. Leave Portugal to it's own devices and it's own abused citizens.
The Libel Trial will pan out, and whatever happens it will not affect the search for Madeleine.
Thank you for leaving Portugal to it's own devices but the only abused citizens are the british - we don't have forbidden books in Portugal, you have.
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I thank all those who over the last couple of years have supported me, and who have signed the public petitions over the last days, as well as those who, through financial effort towards the recently created fund.
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So what happened with this FUND? Were the public ever told how much they had contributed, or how it was spent?
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Thank you for leaving Portugal to it's own devices but the only abused citizens are the british - we don't have forbidden books in Portugal, you have.
You do a disservice to the Portuguese constitution, Luz.
It guarantees all citizens a right to a good name.
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I'd not noticed this before:
Thank You Note
4 Dec 2011
Dear friends,
My name is Gonçalo Amaral. I am a former Criminal Investigation Coordinator, and the author of the book “Maddie – The Truth about the Lie”, written with the purpose of contributing to the discovery of material truth and the performance of justice, and under the perspective of reinstating my reputation that was blackened in public.
This book was written under the use of my full rights, and stands as a technical opinion that is based on facts, indications and events that are part of the process that underlies the investigation into the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In September this year, an injunction was granted without previously hearing the defendant, based on lies and abusive interpretations of the intentions that were behind the creation of said book.
In order to render the defence of my rights more difficult, a request for damages worth 1.200.000 euros was filed, followed by the arrest of rights and goods.
The strategy of those who continue to dirty us was simple: the man is silenced, and the path to influence attitudes and behaviours, through the manipulation of public opinion at their pleasure, is opened. A campaign to discredit and to misinform is under way, at the same time as they try to asphyxiate us financially, in order to win the case without having to go to trial.
We will not conform to the limitation of our fundamental rights, through unconstitutional judicial decisions that put the responsible exercise of free expression at stake.
I thank all those who over the last couple of years have supported me, and who have signed the public petitions over the last days, as well as those who, through financial effort towards the recently created fund and a demonstration of solidarity, have reinforced my belief in the defence of values that should shape modern and democratic societies, freedom of expression, the discovery of the truth and the performance of justice.
As far as I’m concerned, I commit myself to embody the hopes of all of you, and not to give up, despite the survival of my own family being at stake, but the defence of those values and principles is essential.
To all, a heartfelt thank you.
Portimão, 2009-12-03
Gonçalo Amaral
What is meant by the part I underline?
Sounds a bit sinister to me ...
How odd, he seems to have only used a Portuguese keyboard for two words, Portimão and Gonçalo @)(++(*
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I'd not noticed this before:
Thank You Note
4 Dec 2011
Dear friends,
My name is Gonçalo Amaral. I am a former Criminal Investigation Coordinator, and the author of the book “Maddie – The Truth about the Lie”, written with the purpose of contributing to the discovery of material truth and the performance of justice, and under the perspective of reinstating my reputation that was blackened in public.
This book was written under the use of my full rights, and stands as a technical opinion that is based on facts, indications and events that are part of the process that underlies the investigation into the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In September this year, an injunction was granted without previously hearing the defendant, based on lies and abusive interpretations of the intentions that were behind the creation of said book.
In order to render the defence of my rights more difficult, a request for damages worth 1.200.000 euros was filed, followed by the arrest of rights and goods.
The strategy of those who continue to dirty us was simple: the man is silenced, and the path to influence attitudes and behaviours, through the manipulation of public opinion at their pleasure, is opened. A campaign to discredit and to misinform is under way, at the same time as they try to asphyxiate us financially, in order to win the case without having to go to trial.
We will not conform to the limitation of our fundamental rights, through unconstitutional judicial decisions that put the responsible exercise of free expression at stake.
I thank all those who over the last couple of years have supported me, and who have signed the public petitions over the last days, as well as those who, through financial effort towards the recently created fund and a demonstration of solidarity, have reinforced my belief in the defence of values that should shape modern and democratic societies, freedom of expression, the discovery of the truth and the performance of justice.
As far as I’m concerned, I commit myself to embody the hopes of all of you, and not to give up, despite the survival of my own family being at stake, but the defence of those values and principles is essential.
To all, a heartfelt thank you.
Portimão, 2009-12-03
Gonçalo Amaral
What is meant by the part I underline?
Sounds a bit sinister to me ...
I think it must be pretty obvious to any tom dick or harry whether they speak portuguese or not, english or not, that what he meant was he wouldnt tolerate the restriction on freedom of speech which the PT constitution upholds, even if some judge seems to ovveride the constitution, which she did at first and was found unsound later, by more senior judges, very simple and nothing SINISTER, apart from in biased wumming minds like yours
Enjoy working on your next thread slagging off Grime, the dogs, Amaral, Mrs Fenn, Mr Paiva, or anyone else on your tick box that youve missed out
8@??)(
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How odd, he seems to have only used a Portuguese keyboard for two words, Portimão and Gonçalo @)(++(*
Hmm. No, the original Portuguese has accents.
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However, I'm none the wiser as to what this phrase actually meant:
Não nos conformamos com a limitação dos nossos direitos fundamentais por decisões judiciais inconstitucionais que põem em causa o exercício da liberdade de expressão responsável.
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I think it must be pretty obvious to any tom dick or harry whether they speak portuguese or not, english or not, that what he meant was he wouldnt tolerate the restriction on freedom of speech which the PT constitution upholds, even if some judge seems to ovveride the constitution, which she did at first and was found unsound later, by more senior judges, very simple and nothing SINISTER, apart from in biased wumming minds like yours
Could you post that aspect of the PT constitution? Not everyone here would know what you are referring to.
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Could you post that aspect of the PT constitution? Not everyone here would know what you are referring to.
No, not into THAT sort of detail, I will leave that to obsessives about the ps and qs,devil is in the detail but not in this case/OP pretty simple with end ofs basically, but some like to make mountains of out molehills and GOSH maybe myths
8**8:/:
Catch u later
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Hmm. No, the original Portuguese has accents.
Thanks Carana, clever girl 8((()*/
So does Portimao and Goncalo, translate with accents?
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Thanks Carana, clever girl 8((()*/
So does Portimao and Goncalo, translate with accents?
It might depend on suggestions submitted to help improve automatic translations. They were allowed at one point, I'm not sure if they still are.
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Artigo 37.º
Liberdade de expressão e informação
1. Todos têm o direito de exprimir e divulgar livremente o seu pensamento pela palavra, pela imagem ou por qualquer outro meio, bem como o direito de informar, de se informar e de ser informados, sem impedimentos nem discriminações.
2. O exercício destes direitos não pode ser impedido ou limitado por qualquer tipo ou forma de censura.
3. As infracções cometidas no exercício destes direitos ficam submetidas aos princípios gerais de direito criminal ou do ilícito de mera ordenação social, sendo a sua apreciação respectivamente da competência dos tribunais judiciais ou de entidade administrativa independente, nos termos da lei.
4. A todas as pessoas, singulares ou colectivas, é assegurado, em condições de igualdade e eficácia, o direito de resposta e de rectificação, bem como o direito a indemnização pelos danos sofridos.
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No, not into THAT sort of detail, I will leave that to obsessives about the ps and qs,devil is in the detail but not in this case/OP pretty simple with end ofs basically, but some like to make mountains of out molehills and GOSH maybe myths
8**8:/:
Catch u later
But if you don't, then your earlier post remains unclear.
Quote from: Redblossom on Today at 07:35:43 PM
I think it must be pretty obvious to any tom dick or harry whether they speak portuguese or not, english or not, that what he meant was he wouldnt tolerate the restriction on freedom of speech which the PT constitution upholds, even if some judge seems to ovveride the constitution, which she did at first and was found unsound later, by more senior judges, very simple and nothing SINISTER, apart from in biased wumming minds like yours
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Artigo 37.º
Liberdade de expressão e informação
1. Todos têm o direito de exprimir e divulgar livremente o seu pensamento pela palavra, pela imagem ou por qualquer outro meio, bem como o direito de informar, de se informar e de ser informados, sem impedimentos nem discriminações.
2. O exercício destes direitos não pode ser impedido ou limitado por qualquer tipo ou forma de censura.
3. As infracções cometidas no exercício destes direitos ficam submetidas aos princípios gerais de direito criminal ou do ilícito de mera ordenação social, sendo a sua apreciação respectivamente da competência dos tribunais judiciais ou de entidade administrativa independente, nos termos da lei.
4. A todas as pessoas, singulares ou colectivas, é assegurado, em condições de igualdade e eficácia, o direito de resposta e de rectificação, bem como o direito a indemnização pelos danos sofridos.
Article 37. º
Freedom of expression and information
1. Everyone has the right freely to express and disseminate his thoughts by words, images or by any other means, as well as the right to inform, to inform and be informed without hindrance or discrimination.
2. The exercise of these rights shall not be hindered or limited by any type or form of censorship.
3. Offenses committed in the exercise of these rights are subject to the general principles of criminal law or administrative offenses social, respectively and their appraisal of the competence of the courts or an independent administrative body, in accordance with law.
4. To all persons, natural or legal persons is ensured in conditions of equality and effectiveness, the right of reply and rectification, as well as the right to compensation for damages.
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Article 37. º
Freedom of expression and information
1. Everyone has the right to express freely and reveal his thoughts by words, images or by any other means, as well as the right to inform, to inform oneself and be informed without objections or discriminations.
2. The exercise of these rights shall not be prevented or limited by any type or form of censorship.
3. Offences committed in the exercise of these rights are subject to the general principles of criminal law or of illegality of mere social order, respectively, and their appraisal of the competence of the courts or an independent administrative body, in conformity with law.
4. To all persons, natural or legal persons is ensured in conditions of equality and effectiveness, the right of reply and rectification, as well as the right to compensation for related damages.
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Article 37. º
Freedom of expression and information
1. Everyone has the right freely to express and disseminate his thoughts by words, images or by any other means, as well as the right to inform, to inform and be informed without hindrance or discrimination.
2. The exercise of these rights shall not be hindered or limited by any type or form of censorship.
3. Offenses committed in the exercise of these rights are subject to the general principles of criminal law or administrative offenses social, respectively and their appraisal of the competence of the courts or an independent administrative body, in accordance with law.
4. To all persons, natural or legal persons is ensured in conditions of equality and effectiveness, the right of reply and rectification, as well as the right to compensation for damages.
AND is followed by:
However freedom of expression is not an unlimited right. When the Portuguese
Constitution says that this right “shall not be prevented or restricted”, this does not mean
that this right has no limits, as clearly stated in article 37, n.º 3. Freedom of speech has
limits, and those limits exist to protect several other constitutional rights and interests,
which are also criminally protected. Among them we can find citizen rights to their moral
integrity, good name and reputation. That way, injury, defamation or instigation of a
crime cannot be taken as a sign of freedom of speech or expression.
- Article 37. º Freedom of expression and information, Portuguese law continued.
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http://www.parlamento.pt/Legislacao/Paginas/ConstituicaoRepublicaPortuguesa.aspx#art37
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AND is followed by:
However freedom of expression is not an unlimited right. When the Portuguese
Constitution says that this right “shall not be prevented or restricted”, this does not mean
that this right has no limits, as clearly stated in article 37, n.º 3. Freedom of speech has
limits, and those limits exist to protect several other constitutional rights and interests,
which are also criminally protected. Among them we can find citizen rights to their moral
integrity, good name and reputation. That way, injury, defamation or instigation of a
crime cannot be taken as a sign of freedom of speech or expression.
- Article 37. º Freedom of expression and information, Portuguese law continued.
Among them we can find citizen rights to their moral
integrity, good name and reputation.
That definitely means you can groundlessly accuse a citizen of being responsible for the death of his/her child, concealing his/her body, launching a fraudulent "appeal" in his/her name and spending the proceeds of said appeal frivolously to enhance personal life-style.
Obviously ....
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But if you don't, then your earlier post remains unclear.
Quote from: Redblossom on Today at 07:35:43 PM
I think it must be pretty obvious to any tom dick or harry whether they speak portuguese or not, english or not, that what he meant was he wouldnt tolerate the restriction on freedom of speech which the PT constitution upholds, even if some judge seems to ovveride the constitution, which she did at first and was found unsound later, by more senior judges, very simple and nothing SINISTER, apart from in biased wumming minds like yours
No it is totally clear and simple, I offered my interpretation, its easy to se was correct, if you want to grind grains of sand beyond that, do it yourself or ask others to, in fact ask the appelate court why they overturned the decision to ban a book, they will know
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it is totally clear and simple, I offered my interpretation
Why would your interpretation to something totally clear be necessary?
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it is totally clear and simple, I offered my interpretation
Why would your interpretation to something totally clear be necessary?
Because it is OBVIOUS to all apart from minds like yours, it reallt is very very very simple, you do not have to convolute it and if you try you fail as you make yourself look foolish, but do carry on
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Because it is OBVIOUS to all apart from minds like yours, it reallt is very very very simple, you do not have to convolute it and if you try you fail as you make yourself look foolish, but do carry on
That which is obvious does not require interpretation.
It is, well, obvious ...
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AND is followed by:
However freedom of expression is not an unlimited right. When the Portuguese................................................
Moustache what are you suggesting here ? That I didn't send the complete article the main errors in the google translation of which I corrected rapidly ?
From another source
A Constituição da República portuguesa, de 1976, prevê a liberdade de expressão
em seu artigo 37º, nos seguintes termos:
1. Todos têm o direito de exprimir e divulgar livremente o seu pensamento pela palavra, pe
la imagem ou por qualquer outro meio, bem como o direito de informar, de se informar e de ser informados, sem impedimentos nem discriminações.
2. O exercício destes direitos não pode ser impedido ou limitado por qualquer tipo ou forma de censura.
3. As infracções cometidas no exercício destes direitos ficam submetidas aos princípios gerais de direito criminal ou do ilícito de mera ordenação social, sendo a sua apreciação respectivamente da competência dos tribunais judiciais ou de entidade administrativa
independente, nos termos da lei.
4. A todas as pessoas, singulares ou colectivas, é assegurado, em condições de igualdade e
eficácia, o direito de resposta e de rectificação, bem como o direito a indemnização pelos danos sofridos.
http://www.fd.uc.pt/igc/pdf/papers/RaisaDuarteSilvaRibeiro.pdf
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That which is obvious does not require interpretation.
It is, well, obvious ...
The only person wanting sinister interpretations is you
Twisting and misrepresenting simple things for your agenda is a speciality, a very poor one though, with nil results to date, otherwise if you had results you wouldnt be peddling the same oldarguments time and time again hoping to get a different result, all your threads tryng to discredit mrs fenn the dogs mr grime etc have all been spectacular failures, granted though this is a new one, tryng continually to be creative is a good thing though i guess and god loves a trier
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You're right, she is Mo Stache, it's typing automatism, the word being French.
btw she could be "he", but as his/her name makes me stupidly think of Mr Amaral ex..., I tend to imagine Mo Stache is "she".
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I'd not noticed this before:
Thank You Note
4 Dec 2011
Dear friends,
My name is Gonçalo Amaral. I am a former Criminal Investigation Coordinator, and the author of the book “Maddie – The Truth about the Lie”, written with the purpose of contributing to the discovery of material truth and the performance of justice, and under the perspective of reinstating my reputation that was blackened in public.
This book was written under the use of my full rights, and stands as a technical opinion that is based on facts, indications and events that are part of the process that underlies the investigation into the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In September this year, an injunction was granted without previously hearing the defendant, based on lies and abusive interpretations of the intentions that were behind the creation of said book.
In order to render the defence of my rights more difficult, a request for damages worth 1.200.000 euros was filed, followed by the arrest of rights and goods.
The strategy of those who continue to dirty us was simple: the man is silenced, and the path to influence attitudes and behaviours, through the manipulation of public opinion at their pleasure, is opened. A campaign to discredit and to misinform is under way, at the same time as they try to asphyxiate us financially, in order to win the case without having to go to trial.
We will not conform to the limitation of our fundamental rights, through unconstitutional judicial decisions that put the responsible exercise of free expression at stake.
I thank all those who over the last couple of years have supported me, and who have signed the public petitions over the last days, as well as those who, through financial effort towards the recently created fund and a demonstration of solidarity, have reinforced my belief in the defence of values that should shape modern and democratic societies, freedom of expression, the discovery of the truth and the performance of justice.
As far as I’m concerned, I commit myself to embody the hopes of all of you, and not to give up, despite the survival of my own family being at stake, but the defence of those values and principles is essential.
To all, a heartfelt thank you.
Portimão, 2009-12-03
Gonçalo Amaral
What is meant by the part I underline?
Sounds a bit sinister to me ...
Where has the underlining Gone? Whooshed , removed? Why?
Or am I blind?
Or not understanding something?
I think that quite possibly there never was an underlining but italicised font. My mistake (and seemingly the mistake of the OP?) Soz