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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 09:39:25 PM

Title: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 09:39:25 PM
Sooooooooo.
As I promised on the other forum. I was going to make a call to Ewen Smith - he works at the CCRC now for those that do not know and although he isn't working the Bamber case - and isn't working the News International case I'm on so has bo contact with me .. he is high enough up in the CCRC that my firm can contact him.

Unofficially or officially. But I digress.


After the conversation, very awkward, I realised what he told me was soemthing I actually wouldn't be able to post on the other board.

I'd get banned by the admin there......Mike.

But I can talk about it here.. via PM. Feel free to PM me and ask!
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
Sooooooooo.
As I promised on the other forum. I was going to make a call to Ewen Smith - he works at the CCRC now for those that do not know and although he isn't working the Bamber case - and isn't working the News International case I'm on so has bo contact with me .. he is high enough up in the CCRC that my firm can contact him.

Unofficially or officially. But I digress.


After the conversation, very awkward, I realised what he told me was soemthing I actually wouldn't be able to post on the other board.

I'd get banned by the admin there......Mike.

But I can talk about it here.. via PM. Feel free to PM me and ask!
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
Sooooooooo.
As I promised on the other forum. I was going to make a call to Ewen Smith - he works at the CCRC now for those that do not know and although he isn't working the Bamber case - and isn't working the News International case I'm on so has bo contact with me .. he is high enough up in the CCRC that my firm can contact him.

Unofficially or officially. But I digress.


After the conversation, very awkward, I realised what he told me was soemthing I actually wouldn't be able to post on the other board.

I'd get banned by the admin there......Mike.

But I can talk about it here.. via PM. Feel free to PM me and ask!



Mat, you're a legend.

I think I just heard ngb explode.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 09:52:07 PM
I wasn't about to be spoon fed bullshit.  When I hear something and then realise that people are trying to force it down my throat.....I usually break away and go research.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 09:53:56 PM
Beware Keira kissing your chubby cheeks, Mat. And I don't mean the ones on your face!

As a mod, she would normally come down on that what the f..k quote like a ton of bricks. She wants to know what you know!   8**8:/:
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
Beware Keira kissing your chubby cheeks, Mat. And I don't mean the ones on your face!

As a mod, she would normally come down on that what the f..k quote like a ton of bricks. She wants to know what you know!   8**8:/:

I speak with her a lot. She has my trust. But I can't tell her everything, I think I've told her dozens of pieces of information but still hundreds I can't tell her as she's a bit too close to the defence for me.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 09:56:57 PM
I wasn't about to be spoon fed bullshit.  When I hear something and then realise that people are trying to force it down my throat.....I usually break away and go research.

I predict that you are going to be a very popular bloke over there tonight.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 09:58:30 PM
I wasn't about to be spoon fed bullshit.  When I hear something and then realise that people are trying to force it down my throat.....I usually break away and go research.

I predict that you are going to be a very popular bloke over there tonight.

Hey, mate!
I don't actually dare post it on that forum. Ewen......lets say he erm.. disagreed with a lot of Mike has said.....
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 10:00:53 PM
Beware Keira kissing your chubby cheeks, Mat. And I don't mean the ones on your face!

As a mod, she would normally come down on that what the f..k quote like a ton of bricks. She wants to know what you know!   8**8:/:

I speak with her a lot. She has my trust. But I can't tell her everything, I think I've told her dozens of pieces of information but still hundreds I can't tell her as she's a bit too close to the defence for me.


Far too close. She's bezzies with Preece and she tried to get Andrea banned.  ?8)@)-)
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 10:02:48 PM
Beware Keira kissing your chubby cheeks, Mat. And I don't mean the ones on your face!

As a mod, she would normally come down on that what the f..k quote like a ton of bricks. She wants to know what you know!   8**8:/:

I speak with her a lot. She has my trust. But I can't tell her everything, I think I've told her dozens of pieces of information but still hundreds I can't tell her as she's a bit too close to the defence for me.


Far too close. She's bezzies with Preece and she tried to get Andrea banned.  ?8)@)-)



Oh, no. She doesn't like Jackie - don't know about Andrea though,
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
She tells EVERYONE (in pms) that she doesn't like Preece, and that she would like her banned. It's bollocks.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 10:06:45 PM
She tells EVERYONE (in pms) that she doesn't like Preece, and that she would like her banned. It's bollocks.

Fraid so.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 10:08:08 PM
She tells EVERYONE (in pms) that she doesn't like Preece, and that she would like her banned. It's bollocks.

Fraid so.

Wait and see guys.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 10:11:44 PM
She tells EVERYONE (in pms) that she doesn't like Preece, and that she would like her banned. It's bollocks.

Fraid so.


Wait and see guys.

She's Keira Mat, not Obama. She doesn't have the power. Preece knows ngb's secrets.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 17, 2012, 10:15:42 PM
Oh, well if Keira wants to use me. That's fine. I've been used by worse.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 11:05:21 PM
She tells EVERYONE (in pms) that she doesn't like Preece, and that she would like her banned. It's bollocks.

I see Frustrated of Brentwood has got another bee in her bonnet.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 17, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
She tells EVERYONE (in pms) that she doesn't like Preece, and that she would like her banned. It's bollocks.

I see Frustrated of Brentwood has got another bee in her bonnet.

She's been a bit testy since Bamber dumped her, hasn't she?   @)(++(*

She goes on her luxury holiday soon! Wonder if susan ingham goes away the same weekend?
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: Admin on May 18, 2012, 01:58:15 AM
Did you ask Ewen about the story being put about by Mike Teskowski of how he was allowed to see a certain photo album in Ewen's office and while he still represented Jeremy?  Teskowski said that it was on the strength of what he told Jeremy about Ewen that got him sacked or is that a load of bollocks as well?
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 18, 2012, 05:08:31 AM
Did you ask Ewen about the story being put about by Mike Teskowski of how he was allowed to see a certain photo album in Ewen's office and while he still represented Jeremy?  Teskowski said that it was on the strength of what he told Jeremy about Ewen that got him sacked or is that a load of bollocks as well?

Yes.
This is why I was contacting him, to get to the bottom of this.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: OnlyMe on May 18, 2012, 08:24:52 AM
Would I be correct in assuming that he disputes MT's version of events?
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: John on May 18, 2012, 10:03:45 AM
Would I be correct in assuming that he disputes MT's version of events?

I know who I would believe.  All we have heard from Tesko lately are the rantings of a fruitcake. 

Tesko is the author of his own demise with his wild theories, accusations and fantasy informants.  How anyone with an ounce of intelligence could ever believe him is beyond me.  @)(++(*
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
Steady on, Neil the barrister.

Looks like Hartley's hit a nerve.   8@??)(
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 02:32:54 PM
Steady on, Neil the barrister.

Looks like Hartley's hit a nerve.   8@??)(

They are under strict instructions to pretend this forum doesn't exist, cut down on the silly facaebook-type gossip, keep as civil as poss, and DO NOT UPSET SIMON MCKAY. It is not a forum. It is a closed shop. And it makes Bamber look even more guilty!     8@??)(
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 02:39:12 PM
Hartley's on a warning.

Suprise surbleedingprise. He's just too good for them.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: Only Me on May 18, 2012, 02:59:17 PM
Steady on, Neil the barrister.

Looks like Hartley's hit a nerve.   8@??)(

They are under strict instructions to pretend this forum doesn't exist, cut down on the silly facaebook-type gossip, keep as civil as poss, and DO NOT UPSET SIMON MCKAY. It is not a forum. It is a closed shop. And it makes Bamber look even more guilty!     8@??)(

Yes it does.  I was only there very briefly, but when I find myself wading through posts about stolen, missing pictures...pictures of hard drives...stories about meeting informants in Glasgow...slagging off moderators...accusing people of running sock accounts...I start to wonder where the focus is.

It's a shame:  I actually really did want to find out more about the case, and some of the posters over there seem like very nice, intelligent people regardless of their opinion on Bamber's guilt or innocence.  Unfortunately, the voices of reason seem to be drowned out by the silliness.

The very sad fact is, after a couple of weeks on a forum proclaiming his innocence, I've come away feeling that he's more than likely guilty because I find it very hard to take anything that I read on there as factual information.  If some of the information is based on fantasy, then I have to take the rest of it with a grain of salt too, I'm afraid.

Anyway, it's all a bit of a moot point I suppose.   
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 03:00:01 PM
Hartley's on a warning.

Suprise surbleedingprise. He's just too good for them.

Nelly's lost it, like Belton did. They're both quite old, and neither really believe that Bamber is innocent. It must be quite a strain.   8(8-))
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 03:09:09 PM
Hartley's on a warning.

Suprise surbleedingprise. He's just too good for them.

It's a silly forum, just tit for tat squabbling. It would be more interesting watching 2 tramps trying to push each other off a bench.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 18, 2012, 05:04:33 PM
Would I be correct in assuming that he disputes MT's version of events?

That's an understatement.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: Only Me on May 18, 2012, 05:27:30 PM
Well, i can't say that comes as a surprise.  I assume the photo doesn't exist?
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: John on May 18, 2012, 05:33:43 PM
To be fair there was a time when the material being discussed had a certain amount of honesty about it but I fear the longer this has gone on the accusations and theories have just got completely out of hand.  I have followed many cases over the years and I usually find it quite easy in the end to establish who is being completely honest and who is trying to pull the wool over.

I know for a fact that Jeremy Bamber is furious at the way his old mucker Tesko has been carrying on recently.  His situation is so precarious however that he dare not upset Tesko for obvious reasons...just look what happen when he sent a few warning words in Miss Preece's direction.

I also know that Jeremy doesn't know the half of the rubbish that is being promoted on TT and he would be enraged if he ever heard that Tesko was promoting the idea that Nevill fathered the twins.  It's not that he gives a dam about Nev's reputation but it brings the case and his arguments into disrepute.

All in all, a sad mess.   8(0(*
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: John on May 18, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
Without wading back through pages of posts Mat..

1. Did Ewen admit that such a photo existed?

and...

2. Did one exist which showed Sheila with one gunshot wound to her neck?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: John on May 18, 2012, 05:40:18 PM
Steady on, Neil the barrister.

Looks like Hartley's hit a nerve.   8@??)(

They are under strict instructions to pretend this forum doesn't exist, cut down on the silly facaebook-type gossip, keep as civil as poss, and DO NOT UPSET SIMON MCKAY. It is not a forum. It is a closed shop. And it makes Bamber look even more guilty!     8@??)(

They have been warned by McKay...one false step and he walks.  I think his reputation has taken an awful tumble since all that stuff about him being insolvent, having several IVA's against him and failing to sue his US partner became widespread public knowledge.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 18, 2012, 05:45:26 PM
Without wading back through pages of posts Mat..

1. Did Ewen admit that such a photo existed?

and...

2. Did one exist which showed Sheila with one gunshot wound to her neck?

Thanks!

PM'd.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: John on May 18, 2012, 05:49:44 PM
Without wading back through pages of posts Mat..

1. Did Ewen admit that such a photo existed?

and...

2. Did one exist which showed Sheila with one gunshot wound to her neck?

Thanks!

PM'd.

Thanks for that Mat, basically just as I suspected.   8@??)(
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 05:52:02 PM
Hartley's on a warning.

Suprise surbleedingprise. He's just too good for them.

It's a silly forum, just tit for tat squabbling. It would be more interesting watching 2 tramps trying to push each other off a bench.


It's certainly gone pear shaped this afternoon. That Keira bird has gone cuckoo, and stupid Belton has alienated his old mate Cliff with his daft games. And still preecey blithers on as susan ingham! It's hilarious!
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: Angelo222 on May 18, 2012, 05:52:39 PM
Without wading back through pages of posts Mat..

1. Did Ewen admit that such a photo existed?

and...

2. Did one exist which showed Sheila with one gunshot wound to her neck?

Thanks!

PM'd.

Thanks for that Mat, basically just as I suspected.   8@??)(

Can you share that please mate?   8((()*/
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
Hartley's on a warning.

Suprise surbleedingprise. He's just too good for them.

It's a silly forum, just tit for tat squabbling. It would be more interesting watching 2 tramps trying to push each other off a bench.


It's certainly gone pear shaped this afternoon. That Keira bird has gone cuckoo, and stupid Belton has alienated his old mate Cliff with his daft games. And still preecey blithers on as susan ingham! It's hilarious!

And Belton's posting pms! Again! By my reckoning he's due a meltdown sometime later this evening! I might stay in and watch!    @)(++(*
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: John on May 18, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
Hartley's on a warning.

Suprise surbleedingprise. He's just too good for them.

It's a silly forum, just tit for tat squabbling. It would be more interesting watching 2 tramps trying to push each other off a bench.


It's certainly gone pear shaped this afternoon. That Keira bird has gone cuckoo, and stupid Belton has alienated his old mate Cliff with his daft games. And still preecey blithers on as susan ingham! It's hilarious!

And Belton's posting pms! Again! By my reckoning he's due a meltdown sometime later this evening! I might stay in and watch!    @)(++(*

I wonder has he gotten over having to move house yet?   8)-)))
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 06:26:30 PM
Crikey! I must be psychic! Melt down already!   8@??)(

And yes, preecey, you are giving everyone on here a huge laugh! And we can't wait for you to lose it too! Because you will!    @)(++(*
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 06:29:03 PM
Crikey! I must be psychic! Melt down already!   8@??)(

And yes, preecey, you are giving everyone on here a huge laugh! And we can't wait for you to lose it too! Because you will!    @)(++(*

Grahame Bloggs and son. OMG what a tw@t!
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
Crikey! I must be psychic! Melt down already!   8@??)(

And yes, preecey, you are giving everyone on here a huge laugh! And we can't wait for you to lose it too! Because you will!    @)(++(*

Grahame Bloggs and son. OMG what a tw@t!


What the HELL is wrong with him? Is he ill?

I wonder what Jeremy Bamber thinks of such nonsense?
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 06:58:27 PM
By the way hes writing he might be drunk. But he is a very unpleasant man   8(8-))
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
By the way hes writing he might be drunk. But he is a very unpleasant man   8(8-))

He's a dickhead. He lives for that forum but regularly makes a fool of himself, huffs off then crawls back. He is completely and utterly bogus.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 11:07:20 PM
Crikey! I must be psychic! Melt down already!   8@??)(

And yes, preecey, you are giving everyone on here a huge laugh! And we can't wait for you to lose it too! Because you will!    @)(++(*

Grahame Bloggs and son. OMG what a tw@t!


What the HELL is wrong with him? Is he ill?

I wonder what Jeremy Bamber thinks of such nonsense?


I would imagine that he is mortified that his forum is being used as a playground when he is in the last chance saloon. Long-standing members b....ring about and posting as idiots must detract from the fact that his case is just a heartbeat away from being closed for ever. He must feel like everyone has deserted him. And Mike bragging that he has two pieces of evidence that would possibly secure an appeal, but hubris dictates that he hangs on to them until he deems the time is right, must feel like a bitter blow. Abandon hope.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 18, 2012, 11:38:50 PM
The ammount of PM's I got on there today laughing at Grahame's attakcs on me was un real! There was no need for how he acted today - yet he still beleives he's held with high regard.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 11:41:47 PM
I can't imagine how Sheila's body could have been lifted from the bed to the floor without displacing the blood that was in her mouth and collected in the pouch in her neck. So any image of Sheila on the floor would show much more blood. Not just a couple of trickles. And if Sheila shot herself in the kitchen, then roused herself to move upstairs, she would have been covered in blood. Her heart would have been beating, adrenalin rushing, blood from the soft tissue in her throat would have poured out.

Mike, (and I know you read this) rather than fudge the issues, and pretend that you know all the answers, why don't you explain why Sheila looked like she had just been dragged from her bedroom? And can you be honest, once and for all, about the tampon case in the lounge? Why did it contain half of a torn tampon? It certainly wasn't the tampon that Sheila had in place.

Then we can discuss the call that Ralph didn't make.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 18, 2012, 11:56:29 PM
Rochy, really, the "racist forum"? So what, are we all responsible for everyone's views on the planet? Am I Tim's mum? If Tim wants to say stuff, then I must either agree or keep my head down? Racism is self-defeating and weak. Like punching a kitten. But there are worse things than racism. Ask anyone who has lost someone who they care about.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: abs on May 20, 2012, 12:00:52 PM
Why are there so many "guests" posting all the time? - Personally I find it a bit annoying, and isn´t it just another way of having multiple personas?
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: ActualMat on May 20, 2012, 12:03:11 PM
I don't like speaking with the guests.......you can't tell who they are.
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 20, 2012, 12:06:34 PM
Why are there so many "gusts" posting all the time? - Personally I find it a bit annoying, and isn´t it just another way of having multiple personas?

abs hi my new friend I agree. I can,t understand why people can,t just be themselves haha

Yorkshire folk wouldn't do it
Title: Re: Conversation with Ewen.
Post by: puglove on May 20, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
I don't like speaking with the guests.......you can't tell who they are.

mat they could be a mole