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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Vertigo Swirl on April 29, 2018, 07:48:31 PM
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What do members think the Met have been actively working on and spending so much money on for the last few years?
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What do members think the Met have been actively working on and spending so much money on for the last few years?
Millions on finding several locally based burglars ( I can’t imagine burglars travelling very far to steal the meager pickongs they’d find in holiday lets )?
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Millions on finding several locally based burglars ( I can’t imagine burglars travelling very far to steal the meager pickongs they’d find in holiday lets )?
We know precisely diddly squat about the lead the Met is pursuing but it certainly makes a whole lot more sense that £12m is being spent on tracking a person or people down internationally (including potentially the missing child) rather than on a couple of plainsclothes policemen and a listening device in Rothley.
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Millions on finding several locally based burglars ( I can’t imagine burglars travelling very far to steal the meager pickongs they’d find in holiday lets )?
It is the aspect of the fleeing burglars possibly knocking down a wandering Madeleine that interests me.
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We know precisely diddly squat about the lead the Met is pursuing but it certainly makes a whole lot more sense that £12m is being spent on tracking a person or people down internationally (including potentially the missing child) rather than on a couple of plainsclothes policemen and a listening device in Rothley.
You are of course right. We do know diddly squat about the lead the Met are pursuing.
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We know precisely diddly squat about the lead the Met is pursuing but it certainly makes a whole lot more sense that £12m is being spent on tracking a person or people down internationally (including potentially the missing child) rather than on a couple of plainsclothes policemen and a listening device in Rothley.
Though of course they are only spending a much smaller amount which some are estimating at £150k.
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You are of course right. We do know diddly squat about the lead the Met are pursuing.
I'm also right about the other point I made of course - imo.
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Though of course they are only spending a much smaller amount which some are estimating at £150k.
TO date they have spent £12m+ - on building a case against the McCanns do you think? How would the money have been spent in such a scenario? What evidence would they be looking for beyond that which had already been collected as part of the first investigation?
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TO date they have spent £12m+ - on building a case against the McCanns do you think? How would the money have been spent in such a scenario? What evidence would they be looking for beyond that which had already been collected as part of the first investigation?
I wonder how much was used of that £12+ million pursuing the alleged burglars who had sod all to do with it and ended up being right back at the start.
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I wonder how much was used of that £12+ million pursuing the alleged burglars who had sod all to do with it and ended up being right back at the start.
According to Faithlilly, not that much as they were only local and wouldn't have strayed far.
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According to Faithlilly, not that much as they were only local and wouldn't have strayed far.
I have had an update on their locations, perhaps a year ago, and none had strayed from Luz.
Quite why OG thought it was prudent to round up 3 locals who remained local is a mystery to me.
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I have had an update on their locations, perhaps a year ago, and none had strayed from Luz.
Quite why OG thought it was prudent to round up 3 locals who remained local is a mystery to me.
As OG isn't providing a running commentary of its actions then it remains a mystery to all of us, and rightly so IMO.
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I wonder how much was used of that £12+ million pursuing the alleged burglars who had sod all to do with it and ended up being right back at the start.
Many, many more than the "alleged" burglars have been interviewed by Operation Grange and in my opinion you cannot possibly have any knowledge of exactly where any of those interviews led the investigators.
What we do know is that there is justification for pursuing the active case into Madeleine's disappearance as the investigation asked for money to keep going on it, the money was granted and work continues. The PJ also appear to have an interest in something or other too as the Portuguese investigation continues.
Just an aside ... one wonders how the Portuguese Penal Code copes with Freedom of Information Requests ... or does the secrecy law ensure that their police are allowed to pursue active criminal cases without the hindrance and added expense of having to dot the i's and cross the t's of such requests?
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Many, many more than the "alleged" burglars have been interviewed by Operation Grange and in my opinion you cannot possibly have any knowledge of exactly where any of those interviews led the investigators.
What we do know is that there is justification for pursuing the active case into Madeleine's disappearance as the investigation asked for money to keep going on it, the money was granted and work continues. The PJ also appear to have an interest in something or other too as the Portuguese investigation continues.
Just an aside ... one wonders how the Portuguese Penal Code copes with Freedom of Information Requests ... or does the secrecy law ensure that their police are allowed to pursue active criminal cases without the hindrance and added expense of having to dot the i's and cross the t's of such requests?
As OG is keeping quiet your post is supposition.
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This is a new thread.
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I have had an update on their locations, perhaps a year ago, and none had strayed from Luz.
Quite why OG thought it was prudent to round up 3 locals who remained local is a mystery to me.
I don't have a problem with the fact that they were interviewed. How else could they have clarified pending questions?
I have a problem with that leaky fan that splashed them all over the media.
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I don't have a problem with the fact that they were interviewed. How else could they have clarified pending questions?
I have a problem with that leaky fan that splashed them all over the media.
There's interviewed and there's arguidoed.
I have no reason whatsoever to believe that the widespread media attention was due to one leaky fan.
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There's interviewed and there's arguidoed.
I have no reason whatsoever to believe that the widespread media attention was due to one leaky fan.
There may have been more than one fan.
I'm not sure whether any of the temporary arguidos requested the status or whether it was imposed.
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What do members think the Met have been actively working on and spending so much money on for the last few years?
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A shedful of manhours collating documents.
A not inconsiderable bill for translations.
Manhours associated with reading all the documents.
35 bodies full time for a year will see off £2.4MM in payroll alone.
"Playing at Airwolf" a few years back probably came to a pretty penny.
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A shedful of manhours collating documents.
A not inconsiderable bill for translations.
Manhours associated with reading all the documents.
35 bodies full time for a year will see off £2.4MM in payroll alone.
"Playing at Airwolf" a few years back probably came to a pretty penny.
"Playing at Airwolf" what is that?
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"Playing at Airwolf" what is that?
Only a presumption ... but possibly airborne surveys of the terrain of Luz at least one of which used a Portuguese military plane.
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Only a presumption ... but possibly airborne surveys of the terrain of Luz at least one of which used a Portuguese military plane.
And a good example of the ridiculing of Op Grange which is apparently perfectly acceptable on this forum but don't even think about dissing the PJ in a similar manner!
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And a good example of the ridiculing of Op Grange which is apparently perfectly acceptable on this forum but don't even think about dissing the PJ in a similar manner!
I agree.
In my opinion the use of aerial surveys in police work is standard practice.
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And a good example of the ridiculing of Op Grange which is apparently perfectly acceptable on this forum but don't even think about dissing the PJ in a similar manner!
I think OG is doing just as good a job as the PJ.
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I think OG is doing just as good a job as the PJ.
So what do you think they were doing "playing Airwolf" then?
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So what do you think they were doing "playing Airwolf" then?
Not sure why my answer elicited that response.
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Not sure why my answer elicited that response.
You think they are doing a good job, and I was curious to know where you thought their aerial sweep over PdL and digging and looking down wells fit in with your theory that the McCanns are the chief suspects?
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You think they are doing a good job, and I was curious to know where you thought their aerial sweep over PdL and digging and looking down wells fit in with your theory that the McCanns are the chief suspects?
Can you cite Faith’s theory being that the McCann are chief suspects?
Also aerial sweeps, digging and looking down wells is in no way proof of them not being suspects. IMO.
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And a good example of the ridiculing of Op Grange which is apparently perfectly acceptable on this forum but don't even think about dissing the PJ in a similar manner!
Why so?
Do you have a problem with OG using aerial surveys to show up potential depressions where freshly dug soil has settled and self compacted ? This possibly would not be noticeable at grade level so colly'epters or drones are a good idea.
Do you think my comment about it costing a pretty penny is inaccurate then or that OG did not spend money on the aerial survey? Your post to which I responded was after all about costs, my response was about costs.
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Why so?
Do you have a problem with OG using aerial surveys to show up potential depressions where freshly dug soil has settled and self compacted ? This possibly would not be noticeable at grade level so colly'epters or drones are a good idea.
Do you think my comment about it costing a pretty penny is inaccurate then or that OG did not spend money on the aerial survey? Your post to which I responded was after all about costs, my response was about costs.
Perhaps if you'd used the phrase "using aerial surveys" instead of "playing at Airwolf" I wouldn't have found the comment so disparaging, as clearly that was your aim.
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Can you cite Faith’s theory being that the McCann are chief suspects?
Also aerial sweeps, digging and looking down wells is in no way proof of them not being suspects. IMO.
No I can't cite Faith's theory, nor can I write it down for you without breaking this forum's libel rules suffice it to say a late night deposit in a bin and an early morning refuse collection to the tip are involved. Aerial sweeps over PdL, digging and looking down wells would be a waste of time if her theory is correct. In any case, what evidence do we have that the McCanns had developed a keen sense of where the best places to hide a body in PdL during their short stay, so well developed that the body remains hidden in the centre of a popular holiday resort 11 years later?