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Offline misty

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2018, 01:57:01 AM »
An extremely valid question which deserved a simple answer.

How was Gerry supposed to answer that question without giving the impression he was well-acquainted with Murat?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm   (rogatory)

*snipped*

Then a voice called me from over the hedge. "What is happening, or what is going on'", I replied that a three year old girl had disappeared, he said "I am going to come round to talk to you" and he did this, walked round to come over towards me and said "I have lived here for fourteen years, I speak Portuguese fluently and I can help to translate", and we introduced ourselves, he told me he was Robert and this was the first time I had seen this man. Robert mentioned that he had a daughter in Norfolk who was the same age as Madeleine, and that is why he was able to understand what they were going through. We walked back along the path that I had taken to Gerry's apartment and I explained that Robert spoke Portuguese fluently, he told Gerry that it was important to have someone who spoke the language so that nothing would be lost in translation.. And that was how Robert Murat was presented as a translator.


DCF: Yes

SC: After he left, he explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the case was being handled and they went to talk to John Hill.



We can only speculate what information Gerry imparted to Murat but it is clear the two men had met prior to the media's question. That's not quite the same as "knowing" someone in the sense of a friendship.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2018, 06:24:41 AM »
It is this bit that moves me to believe that Kate is not aware of Madeleine's death.  She is innocent in all regards based on this interview segment. 
https://youtu.be/jNTPYfFpLkg?t=1278  Wait till you  get to this bit "It's beyond words Yeah we'll cope with anything ....".  I recon that amount of emotion could be done by an actor but I'd be surprised if a guilty person could master that bit as well as she did then.
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Offline Sunny

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2018, 10:49:02 AM »
How was Gerry supposed to answer that question without giving the impression he was well-acquainted with Murat?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm   (rogatory)

*snipped*

Then a voice called me from over the hedge. "What is happening, or what is going on'", I replied that a three year old girl had disappeared, he said "I am going to come round to talk to you" and he did this, walked round to come over towards me and said "I have lived here for fourteen years, I speak Portuguese fluently and I can help to translate", and we introduced ourselves, he told me he was Robert and this was the first time I had seen this man. Robert mentioned that he had a daughter in Norfolk who was the same age as Madeleine, and that is why he was able to understand what they were going through. We walked back along the path that I had taken to Gerry's apartment and I explained that Robert spoke Portuguese fluently, he told Gerry that it was important to have someone who spoke the language so that nothing would be lost in translation.. And that was how Robert Murat was presented as a translator.


DCF: Yes

SC: After he left, he explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the case was being handled and they went to talk to John Hill.



We can only speculate what information Gerry imparted to Murat but it is clear the two men had met prior to the media's question. That's not quite the same as "knowing" someone in the sense of a friendship.

He could simply have said I didn't know him. That was the question not whether he had spoken to him.  He could even elaborate on that and simply say he had met him for the first time the night of Madeleine's disappearance.  It really isn't that hard a question to answer IMO.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2018, 10:52:11 AM »
He could simply have said I didn't know him. That was the question not whether he had spoken to him.  He could even elaborate on that and simply say he had met him for the first time the night of Madeleine's disappearance.  It really isn't that hard a question to answer IMO.

That question was asked whilst still under judicial  secrecy... You have yet to quote a question to support your seemingly false claim

Offline barrier

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2018, 10:53:43 AM »
How was Gerry supposed to answer that question without giving the impression he was well-acquainted with Murat?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm   (rogatory)

*snipped*

Then a voice called me from over the hedge. "What is happening, or what is going on'", I replied that a three year old girl had disappeared, he said "I am going to come round to talk to you" and he did this, walked round to come over towards me and said "I have lived here for fourteen years, I speak Portuguese fluently and I can help to translate", and we introduced ourselves, he told me he was Robert and this was the first time I had seen this man. Robert mentioned that he had a daughter in Norfolk who was the same age as Madeleine, and that is why he was able to understand what they were going through. We walked back along the path that I had taken to Gerry's apartment and I explained that Robert spoke Portuguese fluently, he told Gerry that it was important to have someone who spoke the language so that nothing would be lost in translation.. And that was how Robert Murat was presented as a translator.


DCF: Yes

SC: After he left, he explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the case was being handled and they went to talk to John Hill.



We can only speculate what information Gerry imparted to Murat but it is clear the two men had met prior to the media's question. That's not quite the same as "knowing" someone in the sense of a friendship.

Wonder how Carpenter got to know Madeleines name, at the start of his ROG he said he didn't know her name.


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During the holiday you met the following persons, Gerry and Kate McCann, saw their children, Madeleine and the twins, but don't know their names


Ah got it,it was from his wife or the telly.

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SC: Humm... vaguely, I think it was what was put in the statement, the same, the leaving the restaurant, the way back to the apartment, looking to my left to check that the way was clear and I didn't see anything....My wife vaguely remembers hearing "Madeleine, Madeleine" and that was all until the following morning when I saw the television.
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Offline Sunny

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2018, 10:55:44 AM »
That question was asked whilst still under judicial  secrecy... You have yet to quote a question to support your seemingly false claim

It would seem to me that the McCanns answered questions they wanted to and not those they did not. This is my opinion.    To me this was a valid question that they have not felt worth answering after judicial secrecy ended. If you read my post earlier I did say that I was talking about questions asked during that time, and ones they haven't answered subsequently.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2018, 11:26:05 AM »
It would seem to me that the McCanns answered questions they wanted to and not those they did not. This is my opinion.    To me this was a valid question that they have not felt worth answering after judicial secrecy ended. If you read my post earlier I did say that I was talking about questions asked during that time, and ones they haven't answered subsequently.
Would someone need to ask them those questions again?
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Offline Sunny

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2018, 11:29:39 AM »
Would someone need to ask them those questions again?

I can't see any media type currently, asking them any questions they didn't want to answer.  Of course they don't give many interviews anyway as they chose to use Clarence Mitchell as a "family friend" from what I have read. The interviews they do give would be mostly carefully scripted with agreed topics off limits IMO.  This is my opinion.
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Offline Sunny

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2018, 12:14:22 PM »
It is time consuming Robittybob1. At the time of watching an interview you think "they haven't ever answered that point" then months down the line it is hard to find what/when it was said.

I wasn't considering any answers they gave in Kate's book as valid as a person would need a specific interest in the case and money to buy the book. I was only thinking of media interviews given after the case was shelved. 

I wasn't interested in the case at all at this time and for a long time afterwards so I have had a sort of crash course on it which makes it harder to remember what I read when/where.

I will continue looking.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2018, 03:15:00 PM »
... and most posters would assume from that that he knew him.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2018, 03:16:31 PM »
... and most posters would assume from that that he knew him.

posters can assume what they like...I will correct them when they are wrong. i find it quite telling how some posters add 2 and 2 and get 5...

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2018, 03:30:33 PM »
posters can assume what they like...I will correct them when they are wrong. i find it quite telling how some posters add 2 and 2 and get 5...

English isn’t Maths, a careful writer can always give a misleading impression.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2018, 03:35:30 PM »
English isn’t Maths, a careful writer can always give a misleading impression.
when it comes to assessing evidence...careful reading of the written word and its precise meaning is important...I have never  said my son met gerry but some sceptics have jumped to conclusions......If posters want to make incorrect assunptions ...tahts there problem not mine...its proof taht they do make incorrect assumptions

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2018, 03:40:00 PM »
when it comes to assessing evidence...careful reading of the written word and its precise meaning is important...I have never  said my son met gerry but some sceptics have jumped to conclusions......If posters want to make incorrect assunptions ...tahts there problem not mine...its proof taht they do make incorrect assumptions

It all depends on the impression the original post was intended to make.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What questions haven't they answered and who was, asking?
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2018, 03:40:18 PM »
English isn’t Maths, a careful writer can always give a misleading impression.

and a sloppy reader can always get the wrong impression