Author Topic: TVI ordered to pay €20,000 to Robert Murat for calling him a "paedophile".  (Read 23995 times)

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Offline barrier

How the hell can someone who has already received more than €700,000 in tax free compo be deemed 'economically dependent on his mother'?   Anyone answer this?

Wonder if it shouldn't read,he lives with his mother who is economically dependant on him.
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Offline Mr Gray

Wonder if it shouldn't read,he lives with his mother who is economically dependant on him.

Yes looks like a mistranslation

Offline Robittybob1

if his mother owns the house, does that make a difference.
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Offline John

Wonder if it shouldn't read,he lives with his mother who is economically dependant on him.

Actually no, the Portuguese version is clear in that he is economically dependent on mummy.

"...ficou sem trabalho e dependente economicamente da sua mãe"

https://www.cmjornal.pt/tv-media/detalhe/supremo-condena-tvi-a-pagar-indemnizacao-a-robert-murat-por-lhe-chamar-pedofilo
« Last Edit: August 17, 2018, 02:00:47 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Actually no, the Portuguese version is clear in that he is economically dependent on mummy.

"...ficou sem trabalho e dependente economicamente da sua mãe"

https://www.cmjornal.pt/tv-media/detalhe/supremo-condena-tvi-a-pagar-indemnizacao-a-robert-murat-por-lhe-chamar-pedofilo
The Portuguese is clear that he WAS without work etc.
What's up, old man?

Offline barrier

Actually no, the Portuguese version is clear in that he is economically dependent on mummy.

"...ficou sem trabalho e dependente economicamente da sua mãe"

https://www.cmjornal.pt/tv-media/detalhe/supremo-condena-tvi-a-pagar-indemnizacao-a-robert-murat-por-lhe-chamar-pedofilo

Then back to your question,
How the hell can someone who has already received more than €700,000 in tax free compo be deemed 'economically dependent on his mother'?   Anyone answer this?

This case gets more bizarre by the day!
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Offline G-Unit

There is no evidence against arguido #1
There is no evidence against arguido #2
There is no evidence against arguido #3
Why would arguido #2 be considered to be in the clear on that basis and not #3 and #1 ~ or any combination ~ not also be considered to be in the clear given all three meet the same criteria?

There's a difference if you read the full archiving document. There were no outstanding questions about Murat in the report, but, as the SC judges pointed out, there were about the McCanns.
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Offline Mr Gray

There's a difference if you read the full archiving document. There were no outstanding questions about Murat in the report, but, as the SC judges pointed out, there were about the McCanns.
How does that affect their right to the presumption  of innocence......so you regard Murat as cleared by the archiving report


Offline slartibartfast

How does that affect their right to the presumption  of innocence......so you regard Murat as cleared by the archiving report

Nothing to do with presumption of innocence.
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Offline G-Unit

How does that affect their right to the presumption  of innocence......so you regard Murat as cleared by the archiving report

It doesn't affect their right to the presumption of innocence. It does, however, affect their claim that they are innocent and to offer the archiving dispatch as proof thereof.
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Offline misty

It doesn't affect their right to the presumption of innocence. It does, however, affect their claim that they are innocent and to offer the archiving dispatch as proof thereof.

There is no proof Murat was at home all evening with his mother other than her word.
There is no proof the McCanns' timeline of events that evening was correct, other than the word of their friends.

What's the difference in the respective legal positions of the 3 arguidos when it came to the filing order 277/1 as the nature of any crime had not been verified? Why did 2 have to physically demonstrate their innocence when the 3rd didn't have to demonstrate anything, let alone that he wasn't a pedophile as accused by TVI?

Offline G-Unit

There is no proof Murat was at home all evening with his mother other than her word.
There is no proof the McCanns' timeline of events that evening was correct, other than the word of their friends.

What's the difference in the respective legal positions of the 3 arguidos when it came to the filing order 277/1 as the nature of any crime had not been verified? Why did 2 have to physically demonstrate their innocence when the 3rd didn't have to demonstrate anything, let alone that he wasn't a pedophile as accused by TVI?

The questions raised weren't just about their timeline.
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Offline John

There is no proof Murat was at home all evening with his mother other than her word.
There is no proof the McCanns' timeline of events that evening was correct, other than the word of their friends.

What's the difference in the respective legal positions of the 3 arguidos when it came to the filing order 277/1 as the nature of any crime had not been verified? Why did 2 have to physically demonstrate their innocence when the 3rd didn't have to demonstrate anything, let alone that he wasn't a pedophile as accused by TVI?

I believe the difference is this.  Robert Murat had no involvement with Madeleine unlike her parents and we all know from past events that family members are the first port of call when a child disappears in suspicious circumstances.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

It doesn't affect their right to the presumption of innocence. It does, however, affect their claim that they are innocent and to offer the archiving dispatch as proof thereof.

Cite that they have claimed to be innocent and have offered the archiving despatch as proof

Offline Mr Gray

Nothing to do with presumption of innocence.

according to the SC they were denied the presumption of innocence becasue they were not cleared by the archiving report
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