Jeremy Bamber - Simon McKay to speak about case at Cardiff Law School

[John]

Cardiff Law School : Public lectures: Innocence Week. 1: The White House Farm Murders: the Case of Jeremy Bamber (on 25 Feb 6pm); 2 The Shieldfield Nursery Libel Trial (on 28 Feb 6pm) Open to all.

The third Cardiff Law School Innocence week will be held 25th - 28 February 2013.

All week students, staff and members of the public will be raising awareness of the problem of wrongful convictions while at the same time raising funds for South Wales Against Wrongful Conviction.

As part of the week, two lectures will be held at Cardiff Law School, These events are open to the public and further details can be found on their events page (linked below)

Lecture 1: The White House Farm Murders: the Case of Jeremy Bamber
The first of two two main public events which are free and open to the public will be on Monday 25th February at 6pm. Simon McKay solicitor for Jeremy Bamber will be talking about the case.

http://t.co/zt46O6gJ

[frank50]

What's he going to say exactly? That he helped with an application to the CCRC which was thrown out for being hopeless. That he then advised Bamber to appy for judicial review of the CCRC's decision which was thrown out on the papers by a single judge who concluded also that the case was  hopeless. And then he advised Bamber to renew the application in open court before two judges, one of whom was one of the most senior civil judges in the country, who also threw the case out after only one hour - yet again concluding that it was utterly hopeless. Im sure the talkwill be riveting.

Cardiff Law School : Public lectures: Innocence Week. 1: The White House Farm Murders: the Case of Jeremy Bamber (on 25 Feb 6pm); 2 The Shieldfield Nursery Libel Trial (on 28 Feb 6pm) Open to all.

The third Cardiff Law School Innocence week will be held 25th - 28 February 2013.

All week students, staff and members of the public will be raising awareness of the problem of wrongful convictions while at the same time raising funds for South Wales Against Wrongful Conviction.

As part of the week, two lectures will be held at Cardiff Law School, These events are open to the public and further details can be found on their events page (linked below)

Lecture 1: The White House Farm Murders: the Case of Jeremy Bamber
The first of two two main public events which are free and open to the public will be on Monday 25th February at 6pm. Simon McKay solicitor for Jeremy Bamber will be talking about the case.

http://t.co/zt46O6gJ

[Dillon]

I am sad to be unable to attend this lecture. I might have asked the great man if he truly beleived Bamber to be innocent and if so could he explain the anomalies in the case. I guess with the Nightingale case etc McKay is making a name for himself as a human rights lawyer
and besides the lecture fees needs to earn a living and presumablly also pay off his debts.

[Myster]

Cardiff Law School : Public lectures: Innocence Week. 1: The White House Farm Murders: the Case of Jeremy Bamber (on 25 Feb 6pm); 2 The Shieldfield Nursery Libel Trial (on 28 Feb 6pm) Open to all.

The third Cardiff Law School Innocence week will be held 25th - 28 February 2013.

All week students, staff and members of the public will be raising awareness of the problem of wrongful convictions while at the same time raising funds for South Wales Against Wrongful Conviction.

As part of the week, two lectures will be held at Cardiff Law School, These events are open to the public and further details can be found on their events page (linked below)

Lecture 1: The White House Farm Murders: the Case of Jeremy Bamber
The first of two two main public events which are free and open to the public will be on Monday 25th February at 6pm. Simon McKay solicitor for Jeremy Bamber will be talking about the case.

http://t.co/zt46O6gJ

Will this be audio/video recorded and released for public listening/viewing?

The school has pdf'd a limited number of transcripts in the past... http://www.law.cf.ac.uk/newsandevents/public_lecture_transcripts.html

I wonder if they could be persuaded to do one of this lecture because of the case's notoriety.

[Tim Invictus]

Where is the balance? Who will be supporting the Bamber conviction and pointing out trial judge Drake's "mountain of circumstantial evidence"?

I wonder if McKay will mention shooting dead pigs in Arizona or rifles being cooked in a cold Arga to 'brand' Neville?

[jackiepreece]

John the point I find the hardest to get my head around is I cannot think  of another women I know or any of the girls  on here who would touch, go near let alone sleep with someone who had either murdered two babies or arranged the murder of two babies. After all she was obviously a very intelligent women.
You could not even look at someone that was responsible for such carnage. I should think any women would be actually physically sick if you found out the person you loved had killed children let alone go visit the mortuary where the babies bodies were kept.

I give her the benefit of doubt over the reasons she went to the police and choose to believe she made up a story about Jeremy because he had dumped her and maybe the whole story ran away with her and she didn't realise the consequences of her actions.

This is just my opinion but in my eyes doesn't make her sound so bad as the alternative

[Andrea]

Where is the balance? Who will be supporting the Bamber conviction and pointing out trial judge Drake's "mountain of circumstantial evidence"?

I wonder if McKay will mention shooting dead pigs in Arizona or rifles being cooked in a cold Arga to 'brand' Neville?

Bamber wont be going anywhere, Tim. The Arizona tests didn't prove a thing. How can you compare dead, cold, pig skin that doesnt even have a blood supply with that of a living person?

[Andrea]

John the point I find the hardest to get my head around is I cannot think  of another women I know or any of the girls  on here who would touch, go near let alone sleep with someone who had either murdered two babies or arranged the murder of two babies. After all she was obviously a very intelligent women.
You could not even look at someone that was responsible for such carnage. I should think any women would be actually physically sick if you found out the person you loved had killed children let alone go visit the mortuary where the babies bodies were kept.

I give her the benefit of doubt over the reasons she went to the police and choose to believe she made up a story about Jeremy because he had dumped her and maybe the whole story ran away with her and she didn't realise the consequences of her actions.

This is just my opinion but in my eyes doesn't make her sound so bad as the alternative

Jack, there is more to this case than the evidence of julie Mugford.
What do you thiink about Sheila running upstairs after the 1st shot, do you think that happened?

[Angelo222]

John the point I find the hardest to get my head around is I cannot think  of another women I know or any of the girls  on here who would touch, go near let alone sleep with someone who had either murdered two babies or arranged the murder of two babies. After all she was obviously a very intelligent women.
You could not even look at someone that was responsible for such carnage. I should think any women would be actually physically sick if you found out the person you loved had killed children let alone go visit the mortuary where the babies bodies were kept.

I give her the benefit of doubt over the reasons she went to the police and choose to believe she made up a story about Jeremy because he had dumped her and maybe the whole story ran away with her and she didn't realise the consequences of her actions.

This is just my opinion but in my eyes doesn't make her sound so bad as the alternative

Where do you get off making up this nonsense Jackie?  Jeremy didn't dump Julie.  She chose to leave him after watching him stroking Collins' hair like some love sick schoolboy.  She told him she would destroy him and we all know about the pillow over the face episode.  Julie had had enough of him and she knew that spilling the beans was the only right thing to do for her own sanity.

[jackiepreece]

Andy I am trying to go through points of the case I don't believe which convicted JB.

So the next point I find hard to believe is that JB actually carried out the murders?

He is the only person I think on a whole life tariff with NO history of violence and not even bought up in a violent background and although it looks like the prison and the authorities have tried to proof he is mad none of the tests have proved this.

Nobody from school or in his past has said he was ever violent in fact a bit of a woos

It's even been documented he didn't like blood

So then we are left with the possibility of a third party responsible and was that third party instructed by Jeremy or someone else and where do you find a hit man to kill two babies

There are names mentioned on here but have they ever been investigated?

Further reasons above I would like John to talk or meet Jeremy to see what he thinks

Jeremy could hardly say I am not answering that question it's a bit tricky
There is talk on the official website of a taped tv interview, is that interviewer going to be allowed to ask anything ?

He should be

[Angelo222]

Andy I am trying to go through points of the case I don't believe which convicted JB.

So the next point I find hard to believe is that JB actually carried out the murders?

He is the only person I think on a whole life tariff with NO history of violence and not even bought up in a violent background and although it looks like the prison and the authorities have tried to proof he is mad none of the tests have proved this.

Nobody from school or in his past has said he was ever violent in fact a bit of a woos

It's even been documented he didn't like blood

So then we are left with the possibility of a third party responsible and was that third party instructed by Jeremy or someone else and where do you find a hit man to kill two babies

There are names mentioned on here but have they ever been investigated?

Further reasons above I would like John to talk or meet Jeremy to see what he thinks

Jeremy could hardly say I am not answering that question it's a bit tricky
There is talk on the official website of a taped tv interview, is that interviewer going to be allowed to ask anything ?

He should be

You must follow the evidence Jackie and not make sweeping speculations.

If there was an intruder why did Jeremy concoct the story about the mysterious telephone call from Nevill where he allegedly said Sheila's got the gun ??  If this story is correct then it was Sheila who did it.  If it was not correct then jeremy lied to cover his involvement.  Point is Jackie that both scenarios completely rule out an outsider doing the deed.

Before you jump to conclusions Jackie I will add that the photographs and forensics rule Sheila out totally.  Therefore only one conclusion can be gleaned from this and that is that Jeremy is guilty.

[Tim Invictus]

David you make the mistake of thinking commonsense, logic and EVIDENCE should resonate even in the mind of a Bamber fan! But you're dealing with people who want Bamber to be innocent regardless of the facts because they like a photo of him from 1985! You just can't teach an old dog new tricks nor install commonsense into a Bamberette!

[goatboy]

I really hope someone asks him to answer the question directly and honestly, does he think Jeremy is innocent? His refusal to give a straight answer speaks volumes IMO.

[Myster]

This is a long shot, but if there are any students from the Cardiff Law School or others looking in who plan to attend Simon McKay's lecture it would be interesting to hear your views on the Bamber case after the event.

[Andrea]

Anyone from here travelling to wales for the event?