Author Topic: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?  (Read 240674 times)

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Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #285 on: August 21, 2018, 10:09:25 PM »
I remember watching throughout the day as the item about Brenda was continually broadcast and dissected in great detail by the usual commentators. It was appalling to watch if I'm honest, I really felt for her.  Garbage television at its worst IMO, it had the whiff of The News of the World about it.  I wouldn't be in the least surprised if the former editor Rebekah Brooks had her grubby paws all over it too, her connections with the McCanns are well known.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rebekah-brooks-accused-of-bullying-government-over-mccanns-7737611.html

Is there a cite for the former editor Rebekah Brooks having her grubby paws all over it it too, or are you just allowed to say that?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #286 on: August 21, 2018, 10:13:43 PM »
Is there a cite for the former editor Rebekah Brooks having her grubby paws all over it it too, or are you just allowed to say that?

“I wouldn’t be in the least surprised....”
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #287 on: August 21, 2018, 10:18:59 PM »
Is there a cite for the former editor Rebekah Brooks having her grubby paws all over it it too, or are you just allowed to say that?
"I wouldn't be surprised ...." is a statement of opinion.  No cite is required.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #288 on: August 21, 2018, 10:22:37 PM »
Cite please

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #330 on: Today at 09:41:31 PM »
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Quote from: slartibartfast on Today at 09:34:51 PM
It’s a question?


You said
"Bordering on libel, bordering on goading, I think I was just letting everyone know they were bordering on goading.
Goading could be via questions, we had established that.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #289 on: August 21, 2018, 10:23:44 PM »
Why would they threaten ? To intimidate? Why ?
You’d have to ask the threateners why they do it, but yes, to intimidate I would imagine. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #290 on: August 21, 2018, 10:27:44 PM »
Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #330 on: Today at 09:41:31 PM »
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Quote from: slartibartfast on Today at 09:34:51 PM
It’s a question?


You said
"Bordering on libel, bordering on goading, I think I was just letting everyone know they were bordering on goading.
Goading could be via questions, we had established that.

 8**8:/:
"Goading could be via questions,"  is not the same as "Rob said asking questions is goading".
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #291 on: August 21, 2018, 10:34:09 PM »
There was allegedly an attempt to discredit/censor Enid O'Dowd by reporting her to her Professional body;

My report upset an unknown McCann supporter so much that he or she complained to my professional body, the ICEAW (Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales). 

 This happened in November 2012 but I only learned of it recently when by chance I came across a post which the person concerned had made on the Internet.

 I was never contacted as the complaint did not meet the standards required by the ICEAW to warrant asking to hear my side of the story. The ICEAW reply to the complainant included the sentence:

‘Mrs O'Dowd is entitled to her opinions and views and freedom of speech’. 
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/106feb16/Enid_O_Dowd_01_02_2016.htm

Didn’t Gerry contact the head of Yorkshire police to complain about Martin Grime ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #292 on: August 21, 2018, 10:35:27 PM »
You’d have to ask the threateners why they do it, but yes, to intimidate I would imagine.

So supporters go on Twitter to intimidate sceptics to do what, shut up ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #293 on: August 21, 2018, 10:35:53 PM »
Is there a cite for the former editor Rebekah Brooks having her grubby paws all over it it too, or are you just allowed to say that?

You could read pages 94 to 105 of the official Leveson transcript of Mrs Brooks' evidence then draw your own conclusion.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #294 on: August 21, 2018, 10:36:29 PM »
Didn’t Gerry contact the head of Yorkshire police to complain about Martin Grime ?
Was that just a random question?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #295 on: August 21, 2018, 10:40:12 PM »
"Goading could be via questions,"  is not the same as "Rob said asking questions is goading".


It reads that way!  or are you just concerning yourself with questions being asked by non supporters?

Perhaps you could avail where a question is goading and where it isn't- any example would suffice.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #296 on: August 21, 2018, 10:45:22 PM »
Didn’t Gerry contact the head of Yorkshire police to complain about Martin Grime ?

He did contact him, but we weren't told why. Perhaps he wanted to thank him for sending his best dogs and their handler to help the investigation.
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Offline misty

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #297 on: August 21, 2018, 10:46:42 PM »
Didn’t Gerry contact the head of Yorkshire police to complain about Martin Grime ?

Martin Grime wasn't working for SYP on 16/8/2007; he'd already retired.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #298 on: August 21, 2018, 10:49:18 PM »
So supporters go on Twitter to intimidate sceptics to do what, shut up ?
I have no idea if they ALL do, but it is certainly not a one way street with all the dozens of poor honest decent little sceptics being intimidated and threatened by a handful of supporters if that’s what you’re suggesting.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #299 on: August 21, 2018, 10:50:29 PM »

It reads that way!  or are you just concerning yourself with questions being asked by non supporters?

Perhaps you could avail where a question is goading and where it isn't- any example would suffice.
"I'm about to go out".  Here is an example "are you just concerning yourself with questions being asked by non supporters?"  You are questioning me whether I'm biased and hence not moderating fairly (hence goading).  I have no firm concepts of who is a supporter or non supporter.  I have a feeling most of your posts tend to be non-supporting.
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