Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?

[carlymichelle]

brendas  death was  caused by people taking the  law into their own hands imo  i believe of  people had not jumped the gun and  taken the law into their own hands brenda would still be alive  now

[Mr Gray]

brendas  death was  caused by people taking the  law into their own hands imo  i believe of  people had not jumped the gun and  taken the law into their own ands brenda would still be alive  now

Brendas death was more likely due to her existing problems... As her son confirmed.... The sky affair being merely the last straw ....which confirms other problems

[Brietta]

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Many people, when discussing trolling on the internet, see it as a manifestation of misogyny. Others, who don’t like this idea, insist that women can be trolls – vicious trolls – as well. Leyland, her choice of hate figures and her awful demise appear to prove their point far more graphically than anyone would wish.

Yet if you start thinking of trolls as people who resent strong people because they make them feel inadequate, then you see that trolling would indeed be an activity particularly attractive to misogynists, who prefer to think of women as weak precisely so they can think of themselves as strong by comparison.

The McCanns were strong enough to make sure that their own voices – not the stereotyped voice of the universal grieving parent – were heard. Trolls gain strength from making their voices heard too, but they’re not strong enough to speak in their own name. Expose a troll’s name, and you expose their fears and vulnerability. Such people, it appears, may sometimes be far more fearful and vulnerable than the people who anger them so greatly.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/10/what-made-kate-gerry-mccann-object-of-so-much-anger


The McCann family are trolled and abused using every internet social media platform in existence ~ including youtube ~ and no longer in existence.
Comment opportunities on press articles are never missed.

This has been going on for more than eleven years now and is in my opinion ... inhumane.

Brenda Leyland chose to join in and to add her voice to this callousness in which the McCanns had been given no choices about being the victims.

[ShiningInLuz]

I doubt any activities of any supporters could  either match the volume or the sheer nastiness of many sceptics of which sadly Brenda chose to align herself with.
I've said before that the rolling news type of broadcast of which Brenda was the subject is a type of broadcasting of which I don't approve.

This is a post which is positively Alfie-esque.

Nothing solid to support it.  Just lots of rhetoric.

The volume? What volume?

The sheer nastiness of many sceptics?  What nastiness?  How many sceptics?

Which sadly Brenda chose to align herself with?  Did she actually align herself with anyone?

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[jassi]

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Many people, when discussing trolling on the internet, see it as a manifestation of misogyny. Others, who don’t like this idea, insist that women can be trolls – vicious trolls – as well. Leyland, her choice of hate figures and her awful demise appear to prove their point far more graphically than anyone would wish.

Yet if you start thinking of trolls as people who resent strong people because they make them feel inadequate, then you see that trolling would indeed be an activity particularly attractive to misogynists, who prefer to think of women as weak precisely so they can think of themselves as strong by comparison.

The McCanns were strong enough to make sure that their own voices – not the stereotyped voice of the universal grieving parent – were heard. Trolls gain strength from making their voices heard too, but they’re not strong enough to speak in their own name. Expose a troll’s name, and you expose their fears and vulnerability. Such people, it appears, may sometimes be far more fearful and vulnerable than the people who anger them so greatly.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/10/what-made-kate-gerry-mccann-object-of-so-much-anger


The McCann family are trolled and abused using every internet social media platform in existence ~ including youtube ~ and no longer in existence.
Comment opportunities on press articles are never missed.

This has been going on for more than eleven years now and is in my opinion ... inhumane.

Brenda Leyland chose to join in and to add her voice to this callousness in which the McCanns had been given no choices about being the victims.

The media choose to print these articles and make comment available.

Maybe we should have a blackout on McCann-related articles appearing in the press.

[Erngath]

This is a post which is positively Alfie-esque.

Nothing solid to support it.  Just lots of rhetoric.

The volume? What volume?

The sheer nastiness of many sceptics?  What nastiness?  How many sceptics?

Which sadly Brenda chose to align herself with?  Did she actually align herself with anyone?

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Can you explain what you mean by my post being "positively  Alife-esque"?

Do you deny that there has been a volume of very unpleasant posts made about Madeleine's family.
Do you deny that many of these posts are nasty, libellous, deeply unpleasant and threatening?
Do you deny that these posts are made by sceptics
I can't quantify in actual numbers how many posts, how many sceptics or even the nastiness but just continue trying to deny that  this has occurred.

[Erngath]

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Many people, when discussing trolling on the internet, see it as a manifestation of misogyny. Others, who don’t like this idea, insist that women can be trolls – vicious trolls – as well. Leyland, her choice of hate figures and her awful demise appear to prove their point far more graphically than anyone would wish.

Yet if you start thinking of trolls as people who resent strong people because they make them feel inadequate, then you see that trolling would indeed be an activity particularly attractive to misogynists, who prefer to think of women as weak precisely so they can think of themselves as strong by comparison.

The McCanns were strong enough to make sure that their own voices – not the stereotyped voice of the universal grieving parent – were heard. Trolls gain strength from making their voices heard too, but they’re not strong enough to speak in their own name. Expose a troll’s name, and you expose their fears and vulnerability. Such people, it appears, may sometimes be far more fearful and vulnerable than the people who anger them so greatly.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/10/what-made-kate-gerry-mccann-object-of-so-much-anger


The McCann family are trolled and abused using every internet social media platform in existence ~ including youtube ~ and no longer in existence.
Comment opportunities on press articles are never missed.

This has been going on for more than eleven years now and is in my opinion ... inhumane.

Brenda Leyland chose to join in and to add her voice to this callousness in which the McCanns had been given no choices about being the victims.

Inhumane indeed.

[Brietta]

The media choose to print these articles and make comment available.

Maybe we should have a blackout on McCann-related articles appearing in the press.

Now quite often comments are not allowed under a McCann related press item either good or bad.  Therefore yet another freedom universally denied because of misuse by a few.

[faithlilly]

I doubt any activities of any supporters could  either match the volume or the sheer nastiness of many sceptics of which sadly Brenda chose to align herself with.
I've said before that the rolling news type of broadcast of which Brenda was the subject is a type of broadcasting of which I don't approve.

So supporters calling Brenda a dog and bandying about private information on her on Twitter is not the same as Brenda ‘outing’ someone she thought was Amy Tierney ? How so ?

[jassi]

Now quite often comments are not allowed under a McCann related press item either good or bad.  Therefore yet another freedom universally denied because of misuse by a few.

You can't have it all ways. Either there is free speech for all or for none, not just a select few.
If it stays within the law there should be no grounds for complaint

[Erngath]

So supporters calling Brenda a dog and bandying about private information on her on Twitter is not the same as Brenda ‘outing’ someone she thought was Amy Tierney ? How so ?

I certainly would condemn anyone being called a dog and bandying private information on Twitter.
However Brenda joined twitter, she of her own volition took part in the nastiness being handed about.
She was deeply unpleasant to  the girl she had mistakenly identified.
She was an adult woman who chose to spend a sizeable part of her daily routine joining in with the abuse, unpleasantness and general nastiness that seemed to exist on the McCann thread.

[faithlilly]

Can you explain what you mean by my post being "positively  Alife-esque"?

Do you deny that there has been a volume of very unpleasant posts made about Madeleine's family.
Do you deny that many of these posts are nasty, libellous, deeply unpleasant and threatening?
Do you deny that these posts are made by sceptics
I can't quantify in actual numbers how many posts, how many sceptics or even the nastiness but just continue trying to deny that  this has occurred.

Threatening ? I assume the ‘threatening’ tweets or posts were contained within the dossier? Threats to life are a criminal offence. Why was nobody then charged over the dossier contents ? Could it be that the police viewed the compilers of the dossier as sad old biddies with way too much time on their hands ?

[Erngath]

Threatening ? I assume the ‘threatening’ tweets or posts were contained within the dossier? Threats to life are a criminal offence. Why was nobody then charged over the dossier contents ? Could it be that the police viewed the compilers of the dossier as sad old biddies with way too much time on their hands ?

You could always contact the police and ask if that was their final conclusion.

[carlymichelle]

Threatening ? I assume the ‘threatening’ tweets or posts were contained within the dossier? Threats to life are a criminal offence. Why was nobody then charged over the dossier contents ? Could it be that the police viewed the compilers of the dossier as sad old biddies with way too much time on their hands ?

the  way isee it is the mcanns actions on that holiday led up to whatever  did happen to maddie and  brenda was the scapegoat

[faithlilly]

I certainly would condemn anyone being called a dog and bandying private information on Twitter.
However Brenda joined twitter, she of her own volition took part in the nastiness being handed about.
She was deeply unpleasant to  the girl she had mistakenly identified.
She was an adult woman who chose to spend a sizeable part of her daily routine joining in with the abuse, unpleasantness and general nastiness that seemed to exist on the McCann thread.

So Brenda was a victim of twitter abuse as well as taking part in it, are we agreed ? So what do you suggest is the difference between Brenda being a victim of twitter abuse and the McCanns being victims?

BTW how do you know that the girl identified as AT wasn’t ?