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Offline xtina

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2018, 09:17:42 PM »
I think detective work is like this, there are many more dead ends than connections.  Keep looking I'd say.


what for even more deadends......
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2018, 09:20:07 PM »
I think detective work is like this, there are many more dead ends than connections.  Keep looking I'd say.

You are absolutely right.....it's plodding away at dead ends...until the breakthrough comes

Offline Eleanor

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2018, 09:59:57 PM »

what for even more deadends......

If  you don't look you won't find anything.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2018, 10:26:47 PM »
All sorts of things so it's a waste of time looking for them.
You mean like evidence that the McCanns hid their child’s body? 
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2018, 11:13:44 PM »
There is a view that the McCanns are still being investigated by, at the very least, the PJ, if not also the Met, despite repeated assurances from the police that the McCanns are not suspects.  So, assuming these assurances are lies, then what avenues of investigation are open to the police, particuarly the PJ as far as the McCanns are concerned? 
Forensics?  CCTV?  Re-interviews?  What?  And what evidence is there that the McCanns are currently under investigation?

There is no evidence from the police that they are being investigated but from past cases that doesn't necessarily matter. New forensics were probably included in an ILOR by Nicola Wall in 2015.

Sep 3, 2015

"But top Portuguese sources insist there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shut down at any point in the near future.

And they said they were expecting to receive a new international letter of request shortly from UK authorities - the second since DCI Nicola Wall took over from previous Operation Grange boss Andy Redwood at the end of last year but the first she will have been involved in preparing."

Responding to grumbles about the cost of Scotland Yard's probe and fresh claims it should be wound down, the Portuguese source insisted: "Nothing is going to be shelved.

"Co-operation right now between the British and the Portuguese police is at a moment of great synchronisation."

In May, Portugal's Attorney General's Office revealed: "Since August 2012, the Public Prosecution Service of Portimao has received five British requests for international cooperation in criminal matters, the last of which has been received on January 2015.

"Three of these requests have been already executed and their pieces of execution were returned to the requesting authorities. The execution of two of them is still pending.

The Prosecutor General's Office does not provide information on the content of the requests presented by the British authorities."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/602598/Madeleine-McCann-case-not-to-close

Oct 28, 2015

Police are to scale back the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, with the number of officers on the team cut from 29 to four.

The Metropolitan police said Operation Grange would now only focus on a “small number of focused lines of inquiry that have allowed them to reduce the size of the Home Office funded team”.

The four officers who remain on the team will continue to be led by DCI Nicola Wall, the current senior investigating officer, and sit within an existing major investigation team on the homicide and major crime command.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/28/met-reduces-officers-madeleine-mccann-case-29-to-four

Apr 29, 2016

During a radio interview this week, Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe said he believed there was “one final lead” in the case.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/28/madeleine-mccann-abducted-during-botched-burglary/

Apr 26, 2017

London Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said investigators still hope they can provide answers to what happened.

"I know we have a significant line of inquiry which is worth pursuing,” he said. “Because it's worth pursuing it could provide an answer, but until we've gone through it I won't know whether we are going to get there or not."

"Ourselves and the Portuguese are doing a critical piece of work and we don't want to spoil it by putting titbits of information out publicly."

https://www.newstalk.com/Investigators-pursuing-critical-lead-in-search-for-Madeleine-McCann
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2018, 01:36:26 AM »

You can't find what doesn't exist

In my opinion it does, but would take some proving against the people that I have researched and who seem to be behind it all.   Untouchables in most cases.

Offline G-Unit

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2018, 08:02:10 AM »
The weak point in the case is Russell O'Brien (ROB).  IMO if the SY detectives were able to make a plea deal with ROB the issue of parental involvement would be settled.
In fact I tend to think this has already happened based on what I heard Mark Rowley saying some years back.
Words like "However Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted".

"However" is a word that only makes sense if he knew more than he was letting on.

It makes sense if you take account of his previous words. He said something like 'she wasn't old enough to go off and start a new life'. In other words she didn't leave voluntarily, therefore she was abducted, which means;

the action of forcibly taking someone away against their will.

 

 
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Offline barrier

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2018, 08:20:46 AM »
It makes sense if you take account of his previous words. He said something like 'she wasn't old enough to go off and start a new life'. In other words she didn't leave voluntarily, therefore she was abducted, which means;

the action of forcibly taking someone away against their will.

Without a single reference to a stranger.
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Offline xtina

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2018, 08:26:15 AM »
If  you don't look you won't find anything.


you won't find anything anyway ...as has been shown...

apart from spending a lot of peoples money ....doing so....
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2018, 08:33:07 AM »
It makes sense if you take account of his previous words. He said something like 'she wasn't old enough to go off and start a new life'. In other words she didn't leave voluntarily, therefore she was abducted, which means;

the action of forcibly taking someone away against their will.
They were words he used after the "However" bit.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2018, 08:47:56 AM »
They were words he used after the "However" bit.

In other words; no matter how she left the apartment she was abducted.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2018, 08:51:01 AM »

you won't find anything anyway ...as has been shown...

apart from spending a lot of peoples money ....doing so....

We don't know this as yet.

Offline barrier

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2018, 08:57:19 AM »
In other words; no matter how she left the apartment she was abducted.

Which rules out woke and wandered, leaving alleged stranger abduction or alleged parental involvement doesn't it?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2018, 10:41:03 AM »
Which rules out woke and wandered, leaving alleged stranger abduction or alleged parental involvement doesn't it?

I suppose he could be allowing for her to have set off on her own with a destination in mind which didn't include starting a new life. As she didn't reach her destination she was abducted along the way. .
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2018, 12:31:48 PM »
In other words; no matter how she left the apartment she was abducted.
Exactly.   So those that are responsible for her leaving the apartment are not as much a concern as the person who abducted her.   That is how I understood it IMO.
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