Author Topic: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?  (Read 17531 times)

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2018, 08:43:29 PM »
Reconstruction.  Thanks to the McCanns tapas friends  that never happened.

Oh I don't know!
The PJ had state of the art software contrary to popular myth.
There are indications they performed a desktop study of the alleged movements taken from statements.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm
p.s it is not just about phone calls as the heading may suggest.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2018, 10:03:33 PM »
Actually the opposite has happened to landfill material. Due to the lack of oxygen within the debris it decomposes more slowly than normal.  I have seen a documentary about it recently where newspapers buried in 1986 were still readable.

No cite forthcoming from davel so I'll help out.
Landfill sites operate at 300C to 550C.
Bone needs about 15000C to be destroyed.
Collagen in bone starts to break down at about 2200C but the "bone" retains its shape.
Landfill sites produce methane which has an autocombust temp around 6000C.
Hmmm something don't hang together with original assertion.

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Offline Sunny

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2018, 10:12:15 PM »
No cite forthcoming from davel so I'll help out.
Landfill sites operate at 300C to 550C.
Bone needs about 15000C to be destroyed.
Collagen in bone starts to break down at about 2200C but the "bone" retains its shape.
Landfill sites produce methane which has an autocombust temp around 6000C.
Hmmm something don't hang together with original assertion.

An interesting article that explains that landfills almost mummify items as they decompose very, very, slowly.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/znwnma/in-todays-landfills-food-is-embalmed-for-decades-at-a-time
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2018, 10:15:33 PM »
No cite forthcoming from davel so I'll help out.
Landfill sites operate at 300C to 550C.
Bone needs about 15000C to be destroyed.
Collagen in bone starts to break down at about 2200C but the "bone" retains its shape.
Landfill sites produce methane which has an autocombust temp around 6000C.
Hmmm something don't hang together with original assertion.
Can they do DNA tests on bones after they have been in a landfill for years?
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Offline Sunny

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2018, 10:22:05 PM »
Can they do DNA tests on bones after they have been in a landfill for years?
I should imagine so, but how would the bones yield any evidence of McCann involvement?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2018, 10:31:35 PM »
Can they do DNA tests on bones after they have been in a landfill for years?

Why would a landfill be any different from any other hole in the ground?
There was no trouble with Richard III in his car park.

I expect however there is some odd warp or other that makes Algarve landfill sites exceptions to any known rule.
It seems to be de rigeur.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2018, 10:32:23 PM »
I should imagine so, but how would the bones yield any evidence of McCann involvement?
OK if the DNA could tested and it confirmed a body from a landfill was MM than at least the McCann parents could spend the money in the fund searching for other missing children.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2018, 10:34:25 PM »
Yes Rob.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3727341/Body-discovered-landfill-nearly-50-years-ago-identified-13-year-old-Pittsburgh-girl.html
I wasn't sure if that body had been through the full heating process of a landfill or had just been found at a landfill.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2018, 10:36:19 PM »
OK if the DNA could tested and it confirmed a body from a landfill was MM than at least the McCann parents could spend the money in the fund searching for other missing children.
True, but that’s beside the point.  This thread is about what further avenues for investigation are open to the PJ to enable them to build a case against the McCanns, something which some people belive the PJ have diligently been working on for the last five years.
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Offline Sunny

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2018, 10:43:13 PM »
I wasn't sure if that body had been through the full heating process of a landfill or had just been found at a landfill.

I think the fact that the child had been missing for 50 years was a clue Rob.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2018, 10:50:25 PM »
True, but that’s beside the point.  This thread is about what further avenues for investigation are open to the PJ to enable them to build a case against the McCanns, something which some people belive the PJ have diligently been working on for the last five years.

While there is a chance of an abductor the finger can't be pointed at the McCanns, but if they found a body it comes back to someone that was there that night.  OK not only the McCanns but all the people there that night.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #72 on: October 15, 2018, 10:55:04 PM »
I wasn't sure if that body had been through the full heating process of a landfill or had just been found at a landfill.

Up to 550C ?
One can hold an object that is 550C without burning skin.



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Offline Sunny

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #73 on: October 15, 2018, 11:00:48 PM »
Up to 550C ?
One can hold an object that is 550C without burning skin.

I have been on holiday when it was hotter than that Alice.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What routes are left to investigate re: the McCanns?
« Reply #74 on: October 15, 2018, 11:06:46 PM »
I have been on holiday when it was hotter than that Alice.
The highest temperature ever recorded on earth was 56.7 degrees, where did you go on your  holiday - Venus?
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