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Offline faithlilly

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #105 on: March 08, 2019, 11:01:42 PM »
As were the 'real' police when they arrived on the scene and went about checking the eye witness testimony out instead of rubbishing it all in damaging leaks to the Portuguese press.
Paulo Rebelo opens the window to Maddie's bedroom
Paulo Rebelo and his team consisting of two homicide inspectors, one from sexual abuse, another experienced in robberies and two specialists in technical analysis went over apartment 5A and reconstituted every possible scenario including entering via a window and passing a child sized bundle through.

So it seems the window does indeed have a place in the narrative ... but only to an investigation team competent enough to spend the time checking out each and every feasible scenario.

The window certainly did have a place in the narrative, a place that Rebelo and his competent investigative team wanted clarified in the reconstitution.

‘2 - The situation concerning the window to the bedroom where Madeleine slept, together with the twins, which was open, according to Kate. It seemed then necessary to clarify if there was a draught, since movement of the curtains and pressure under the bedroom door are mentioned, which, eventually, could be verified through the reconstitution’.

Why would Rebelo need clarification if he was convinced of the veracity of the parents statements ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #106 on: March 08, 2019, 11:07:10 PM »
The window certainly did have a place in the narrative, a place that Rebelo and his competent investigative team wanted clarified in the reconstitution.

‘2 - The situation concerning the window to the bedroom where Madeleine slept, together with the twins, which was open, according to Kate. It seemed then necessary to clarify if there was a draught, since movement of the curtains and pressure under the bedroom door are mentioned, which, eventually, could be verified through the reconstitution’.

Why would Rebelo need clarification if he was convinced of the veracity of the parents statements ?

Yeah. No scuffmarks on the  very white walls - no imprints on the bed next to the window - no fingerprints- well apart from Kates.   *sigh* now that is what I call lack of evidence. But then they did change that story anyway.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #107 on: March 08, 2019, 11:08:23 PM »
Any chance of a cite that the Met “knows” Madeleine was not abducted via the window?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #108 on: March 08, 2019, 11:15:50 PM »
Any chance of a cite that the Met “knows” Madeleine was not abducted via the window?

The families chosen media... the one where 'friends of family' and 'close sources' all gather to chat..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7820354/madeleine-mccann-looking-for-parents/

So if they are looking at woke and wandered they aint looking at no whooshing and jemmied shutters now are they?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #109 on: March 08, 2019, 11:22:17 PM »
The families chosen media... the one where 'friends of family' and 'close sources' all gather to chat..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7820354/madeleine-mccann-looking-for-parents/

So if they are looking at woke and wandered they aint looking at no whooshing and jemmied shutters now are they?

I find it quite instructive that there are those who take each and every unattributed tabloid release as gospel.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #110 on: March 08, 2019, 11:27:09 PM »
The families chosen media... the one where 'friends of family' and 'close sources' all gather to chat..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7820354/madeleine-mccann-looking-for-parents/

So if they are looking at woke and wandered they aint looking at no whooshing and jemmied shutters now are they?
You have failed to provide a cite for the Met knowing that Madeleine was not abducted via the window.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #111 on: March 08, 2019, 11:30:40 PM »
I find it quite instructive that there are those who take each and every unattributed tabloid release as gospel.

does the SUN not tell the truth even when printing Kates Book.. yeah you are right we shouldn't believe anything they say.  hahahaha

'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline faithlilly

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #112 on: March 08, 2019, 11:31:04 PM »
I find it quite instructive that there are those who take each and every unattributed tabloid release as gospel.

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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #113 on: March 08, 2019, 11:35:07 PM »
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #114 on: March 08, 2019, 11:40:13 PM »
does the SUN not tell the truth even when printing Kates Book.. yeah you are right we shouldn't believe anything they say.  hahahaha

By the way ... did you happen to notice how big the window of Madeleine's bedroom actually is when Paulo Rebelo was standing beside it. 
Who on earth do you suppose put the rumour about that a burglar couldn't get through it?
Quite obviously they were wrong about that ... particularly as one of Rebelo's team managed it fine and the burglars didn't seem to have problems with the other apartments they hit probably via the window as in Mrs Fenn's case, or by using a key.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2019, 09:09:48 AM »
By the way ... did you happen to notice how big the window of Madeleine's bedroom actually is when Paulo Rebelo was standing beside it. 
Who on earth do you suppose put the rumour about that a burglar couldn't get through it?
Quite obviously they were wrong about that ... particularly as one of Rebelo's team managed it fine and the burglars didn't seem to have problems with the other apartments they hit probably via the window as in Mrs Fenn's case, or by using a key.


Its known a pillow can be passed through a similar window.

Have to agree on the size of the window though.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #116 on: March 09, 2019, 09:55:48 AM »

Its known a pillow can be passed through a similar window.

Have to agree on the size of the window though.

Rebelo very probably knows a variety of items can be passed through a window as did the experts he brought to the case.  In this instance he was carrying out an investigation into whether or not the same could be carried out with a child.
What a pity he appears to have been the first investigator to think of performing that task.

The window is indeed big enough for anything or any burglar to get through.  Initially I had to check he was not inspecting the patio door the aperture looks so big.  The interesting thing is that until very recently it was vehemently denied that the shutter could be raised from outside ... which we now know to be nonsense.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #117 on: March 09, 2019, 12:06:05 PM »
"Details of the window of the bedroom from which the child disappeared where the non-existence of traces/clues of break-in/forced entry was verified." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

"After waiting at the restaurant table for five minutes, Dianne Webster went to the McCann's apartment where she entered the children's bedroom and saw Kate with the twins. Kate insisted on the fact that the window and shutters were open when she saw the children, Dianne went outside to see if she could raise the shutter from the outside and found it to be impossible." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIGADE-OF-INFORMATION.htm



Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #118 on: March 10, 2019, 01:37:24 PM »
"Details of the window of the bedroom from which the child disappeared where the non-existence of traces/clues of break-in/forced entry was verified." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

"After waiting at the restaurant table for five minutes, Dianne Webster went to the McCann's apartment where she entered the children's bedroom and saw Kate with the twins. Kate insisted on the fact that the window and shutters were open when she saw the children, Dianne went outside to see if she could raise the shutter from the outside and found it to be impossible." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIGADE-OF-INFORMATION.htm

So if they were open and the window was open who closed them and why?

If the parents knew MBM was abducted via the window why would they tamper with evidence?
Did the 'abductor' attempt close them while holding MBM?   ^*&&
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Lace

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #119 on: March 10, 2019, 06:59:01 PM »
Yeah. No scuffmarks on the  very white walls - no imprints on the bed next to the window - no fingerprints- well apart from Kates.   *sigh* now that is what I call lack of evidence. But then they did change that story anyway.

Did the pj leave scuff marks on the white walls? How you could tell if there were imprints on that bed I do not know it was unmade and messy.  Kate looked out the window.   If I were an abductor I would wipe my fingerprints off.