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Offline misty

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #165 on: March 11, 2019, 10:34:17 PM »
http://checktheevidencecom.ipage.com/checktheevidence.com/pdf/Goncalo%20Amaral%20-%20Truth%20of%20the%20Lie%20-%20Madeleine%20McCann.pdf

Page 42.
It was the PJ who wanted Jane to ID Murat before they issued a search warrant for his premises. Nothing to do with UK police.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #166 on: March 11, 2019, 10:39:08 PM »
According to Jane's rogatory statement there was no general discussion of her sighting ... which she told the police about as soon as she could when they arrived on the scene.
Why would the tapas group discuss Amaral.  They didn't know him.  They didn't know where he lived.  Jane certainly never ID him.

I said discuss Robert Murat.  They were certainly extremely keen to point the finger.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #167 on: March 11, 2019, 10:44:53 PM »
If Jane Tanner "just thought it was" why no mention of it in the files?

Wasn't that why the undercover operation took place in the first place involving Tanner?
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Offline misty

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #168 on: March 12, 2019, 12:32:09 AM »
I said discuss Robert Murat.  They were certainly extremely keen to point the finger.

How did they (not including Jane) point the finger when all they said was that they remembered seeing him near 5A on the night of the 3rd?

Offline Lace

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #169 on: March 12, 2019, 10:32:22 AM »
And how would they do that when they are already through the window but nobody went through it so I can ignore that question.

It was already proven that someone could get into the apartment through the window,  a PJ officer went through the window.

I don't think that the abductor entered through the window though,  I believe he had a key,  the window was opened for another reason,  maybe for the Police to believe the abductor had entered that way to put them off the scent that someone had a key.  IMO

Offline jassi

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #170 on: March 12, 2019, 10:35:09 AM »
It was already proven that someone could get into the apartment through the window,  a PJ officer went through the window.

I don't think that the abductor entered through the window though,  I believe he had a key,  the window was opened for another reason,  maybe for the Police to believe the abductor had entered that way to put them off the scent that someone had a key.  IMO

Yup, that could very well be.

All we need is the identity of this person.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #171 on: March 12, 2019, 10:37:10 AM »
Yup, that could very well be.

All we need is the identity of this person.
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Offline jassi

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #172 on: March 12, 2019, 10:43:32 AM »
*looks for the shocked and stunned emoticon*

Why? Abductor doesn't have to mean stranger.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #173 on: March 12, 2019, 10:44:24 AM »
Why? Abductor doesn't have to mean stranger.
As you were then.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #174 on: March 12, 2019, 12:26:15 PM »
Wasn't that why the undercover operation took place in the first place involving Tanner?

I don't think so.  I think it was just another pythonesque venture dreamed up by the Judicial police.

How could she have "just thought it was" since she didn't know Murat from Adam (even when she almost walked into him on her way to the 'stakeout') and she certainly was not one of those who said they had seen him outside the apartment 3/4 May.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #175 on: March 12, 2019, 02:12:41 PM »
I wonder if the PJ are allowed to ask a witness to identify someone secretly? I don't think it would be allowed in the UK.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #176 on: March 12, 2019, 03:02:09 PM »
I don't think so.  I think it was just another pythonesque venture dreamed up by the Judicial police.

How could she have "just thought it was" since she didn't know Murat from Adam (even when she almost walked into him on her way to the 'stakeout') and she certainly was not one of those who said they had seen him outside the apartment 3/4 May.

It’s not without cause that even the parents own private investigators saw Tanner as an unreliable witness.

Not to worry though, I’m sure the current PJ and SY investigation will know exactly what happened during the van incident.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #177 on: March 12, 2019, 03:23:54 PM »
It’s not without cause that even the parents own private investigators saw Tanner as an unreliable witness.

Not to worry though, I’m sure the current PJ and SY investigation will know exactly what happened during the van incident.
What makes you sure of that?  I doubt they've given it any consideration at all, too busy looking for the person who abducted Madeleine.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #178 on: March 12, 2019, 04:15:27 PM »
What makes you sure of that?  I doubt they've given it any consideration at all, too busy looking for the person who abducted Madeleine.

I doubt very much if Scotland Yard or the Judicial police have given much thought to any of the events of the first four months of the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance once they had both got their independent scoping exercises out of the way.

I do not think that an investigation which is stuck like a fly in aspic is going to reach any kind of conclusion.  Investigations which progress from studying evidence for what can be discarded or is relevant for progressing to the next stage have a much better chance.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #179 on: March 12, 2019, 04:26:24 PM »
I doubt very much if Scotland Yard or the Judicial police have given much thought to any of the events of the first four months of the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance once they had both got their independent scoping exercises out of the way.

I do not think that an investigation which is stuck like a fly in aspic is going to reach any kind of conclusion.  Investigations which progress from studying evidence for what can be discarded or is relevant for progressing to the next stage have a much better chance.

I believe the Smith sighting was one of the ‘events’of the first four months of the investigation and we know how seriously that’s been taken.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?