Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[Mr Gray]

Didn't it ever dawn on you that if he had seen his face, Martin Smith would have been 100%.
That's why he was only 60-80% I'm assuming. Did Jane Tanner see the man's face? She still told Oakley she was 80% certain that the photo they showed her of the man, was the abductor.

no it didnt dawn on me because it isnt true,,,,and I dont see how you can identify someone 60 or 80  without seeing their face...its quite barmy and thats probably why only amaral thinks smith saw gerry

can you imagine  a police line up.....I didnt see his face.....but hand him a baby and I will be able to recognise him by the way he carries it....The smith sighting is important.....but to claim smith reliably identified gerry is ridiculous

[faithlilly]

you claimed berry said...... Yes Berry did indeed say Madeleine launched herself off the boat and into the sea, ...faith claimed something similar as his actual words....you are both wrong and faith has now corrected herself.....so in accusing me of not listening youve made a bit of a fool of yourself...as you have not listened properly...LOL....

so as you have accused me of not listening properly to berry's account...could you provide a cite for ANYTHING I have said that is incorrect re his statement...you cant and you owe me an apology

You said

‘Did her father say she leapt out of the boat or is that newspaper hyperbole’

Didn’t realise you were playing semantics. Leapt, launched....it means the same.

[Mr Gray]

You said

‘Did her father say she leapt out of the boat or is that newspaper hyperbole’

Didn’t realise you were playing semantics. Leapt, launched....it means the same.

If you havent yet realised...her father didnt say either that she leapt or launched herself out of the boat...

so based on gunits own assessment ..nothing you or gunit say can be trusted...


if the paper did say that then its hyperbole...or lies ...whichever you prefer

[G-Unit]

you claimed berry said...... Yes Berry did indeed say Madeleine launched herself off the boat and into the sea, ...faith claimed something similar as his actual words....you are both wrong and faith has now corrected herself.....so in accusing me of not listening youve made a bit of a fool of yourself...as you have not listened properly...LOL....

so as you have accused me of not listening properly to berry's account...could you provide a cite for ANYTHING I have said that is incorrect re his statement...you cant and you owe me an apology

I apologise unreservedly. In my opinion you heard exactly what I heard and saw exactly what I saw (the clip of a child in the sea, added for effect). What you didn't do was report the whole of Berry's story. You missed out the bit about Madeleine launchimg herself into the water to rescue his child's hat. I asked you repeatedly to confirm what he said but you ignored me. So I withdraw ny accusation that you didn't listen properly, but because you missed out some important information I am still of the opinion that your reports are not to be trusted. 

[Mr Gray]

when posters cannot repeat a simple sentence accurately when its in the same language...it does cast doubt on the accuracy of the non verbatim translations

[G-Unit]

If you havent yet realised...her father didnt say either that she leapt or launched herself out of the boat...

so based on gunits own assessment ..nothing you or gunit say can be trusted...


if the paper did say that then its hyperbole...or lies ...whichever you prefer

So using whichever words you prefer, did Berry say that Madeleine McCann went into the sea off that boat or did he not?

[faithlilly]

If you havent yet realised...her father didnt say either that she leapt or launched herself out of the boat...

so based on gunits own assessment ..nothing you or gunit say can be trusted...


if the paper did say that then its hyperbole...or lies ...whichever you prefer

Perhaps you need to watch the programme again. Launched is exactly what he said.

[Mr Gray]

I apologise unreservedly. In my opinion you heard exactly what I heard and saw exactly what I saw (the clip of a child in the sea, added for effect). What you didn't do was report the whole of Berry's story. You missed out the bit about Madeleine launchimg herself into the water to rescue his child's hat. I asked you repeatedly to confirm what he said but you ignored me. So I withdraw ny accusation that you didn't listen properly, but because you missed out some important information I am still of the opinion that your reports are not to be trusted.

as you have had to apologise because because of your mistake im afraid its your statements that cannot be trusted...but at least you apologise and I thank you for that.....I heard correctly....but I wasnt fooled by the film ...I didnt ignore you...ive been out...im criticised for posting  and also for not posting....LOL

[Mr Gray]

Perhaps you need to watch the programme again. Launched is exactly what he said.

he may well have done....but not off the boat ...so you need to watch again

[Mr Gray]

So using whichever words you prefer, did Berry say that Madeleine McCann went into the sea off that boat or did he not?

edited to add...he 100% did not say ,...off the boat...as you and faith have claimed


i think its most probable she leant over the side....into the sea to retrieve the hat...as Eleanor suggested...and was pulled back into the boat by the staff....what I think is without doubt that Maddie sailed on the thursday which bins two years of so called reserach by the so called experts on CMOMM

[ShiningInLuz]

I have finally gone and had a look. Yes Berry did indeed say Madeleine launched herself off the boat and into the sea, "much to the alarm of the Kid's Club Staff". He goes on to say that in the afternoon on the Thursday the kids were particularly tired...."sea air and being out on the boats all day"

So what did the alarmed Kid's Club Staff do with this sopping wet child? How did she end up like this at lunchtime?

"Some images are etched for all time on my brain.
Madeleine that lunchtime is one of them. She was
wearing an outfit I’d bought especially for her holiday:
a peach-coloured smock top from Gap and some
white broderie-anglaise shorts from Monsoon
[madeleine]

In my opinion Neil Berry, Cat Baker and Kate McCann need to explain why none of them ever mentioned the incident he has just decided to reveal.

Whilst I am puzzled by that alleged new photo of Madeleine, from Neil Berry, because I don't recognise the location.  Further, I can't fathom why the kids would erect a pool, when there was a perfectly good kid's pool close to block 5.
 

[Eleanor]

edited to add...he 100% did not say ,...off the boat...as you and faith have claimed


i think its most probable she leant over the side....into the sea to retrieve the hat...as Eleanor suggested...and was pulled back into the boat by the staff....what I think is without doubt that Maddie sailed on the thursday which bins two years of so called reserach by the so called experts on CMOMM

A four year old is hardly likely to launch herself into the sea.  Madeleine was on the boat, which seems to be the only point worth noting.

[faithlilly]

edited to add...he 100% did not say ,...off the boat...as you and faith have claimed


i think its most probable she leant over the side....into the sea to retrieve the hat...as Eleanor suggested...and was pulled back into the boat by the staff....what I think is without doubt that Maddie sailed on the thursday which bins two years of so called reserach by the so called experts on CMOMM

Exact words.

“.....Much to the alarm of the kids club staff who swiftly grabbed her and dragged her back into the boat.”

[jassi]

Exact words.

“.....Much to the alarm of the kids club staff who swiftly grabbed her and dragged her back into the boat.”

which impliess she was out of the boat.

Greatly exaggerated event and far from the truth I suspect.

[Mr Gray]

Exact words.

“.....Much to the alarm of the kids club staff who swiftly grabbed her and dragged her back into the boat.”

someone leaning over the side could well be described as being dragged baack into the boat