Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[John]

Did the sceptics miss where Sandra Figuerras exposed the PJ as a bunch of liars

You think this is something new?  Cops liars?   

[John]

so you dont think Sandra F telling s the PJ lied to her and their intentions were not honest...thatbthey misunderstoofd the forensics because they only translated the first paragraph....i think thats new information

Haven't reached that part yet...going to watch episode 4 now.

[Mr Gray]

Is that it then, $20 million dollars down the drain for this?  Have they not made any determination as to what really happened or as I suspect they are afraid of potential litigation?

I think they showed the evidence against the mccanns was zIlCH...they showed amaral as a very poor cop who doesnt mind suspects being beaten...they considered the evidence in the cipriano case very poor...

they are there to present evidence...not to judge..
i think many are disappointed because it supported the MccAnns

[Mr Gray]

You think this is something new?  Cops liars?   

Its something new for Sandra to be so pro mccanns and so anti the PJ

[G-Unit]

The details of the incident are irrelevant.
The fact is that Madeleine was alive and well on this day.
It does rather put paid to the nonsense of the researcher's nonsense on CMOMM.
But then nonsense it always was!

You sound like Dave Edgar, he wasn't a detail person either. How can Madeleine going into the sea be irrelevant? In my opinion it requires clarification if a child went overboard during that sailing exercise. I would have thought a teacher would agree.

Did you think CMOMM were right? I never did, so I didn't need Berry to debunk it.

[Erngath]

You sound like Dave Edgar, he wasn't a detail person either. How can Madeleine going into the sea be irrelevant? In my opinion it requires clarification if a child went overboard during that sailing exercise. I would have thought a teacher would agree.

Did you think CMOMM were right? I never did, so I didn't need Berry to debunk it.

Do I sound like Dave Edgar?
Is that a compliment?

Why the need to be so personal?
Just to reassure you that if a pupil of mine had "gone into the sea", there would certainly have been a very detailed report logged

I never suspected for one moment that you would ever believe the nonsense on CMOMM.
I credit you with far more intelligence than to believe such rubbish.

[Mr Gray]

You sound like Dave Edgar, he wasn't a detail person either. How can Madeleine going into the sea be irrelevant? In my opinion it requires clarification if a child went overboard during that sailing exercise. I would have thought a teacher would agree.

Did you think CMOMM were right? I never did, so I didn't need Berry to debunk it.

i dont think a child went overboard.....you claim you never thoght CMOMM were right...yet you have praised them as agood source of information

[misty]

You sound like Dave Edgar, he wasn't a detail person either. How can Madeleine going into the sea be irrelevant? In my opinion it requires clarification if a child went overboard during that sailing exercise. I would have thought a teacher would agree.

Did you think CMOMM were right? I never did, so I didn't need Berry to debunk it.

If Madeleine had actually jumped into the sea, wouldn't she have lost her own hat?

[Erngath]

If Madeleine had actually jumped into the sea, wouldn't she have lost her own hat?

If she had fallen overboard, the whole incident would surely have had to be recorded.
Unless the safety procedures were utterly abysmal.

[misty]

If she had fallen overboard, the whole incident would surely have had to be recorded.
Unless the safety procedures were utterly abysmal.

No formal statements were taken from either Alice Stanley or Chris Unsworth, the two sailing instructors - so presumably their accident records weren't checked.

[Erngath]

No formal statements were taken from either Alice Stanley or Chris Unsworth, the two sailing instructors - so presumably their accident records weren't checked.

I haven't viewed the Netflix series yet, did Madeleine retrieve the other little girls hat?

[John]

I apologise if my previous reply was not appropriate, that was not it's intention, I'll soon learn. But if you got the chance to read it, I am sure you'll have noticed that I have fully considered that he may have been inebriated.  Given that level of consideration, I can't help thinking if he got to the tapas after having a beer shortly before half eight and done his check at a little after nine, I fail to see how he could have possibly have got inebriated enough in that short time to remember the truth about the last time he seen his daughter incorrectly. Don't you feel after careful consideration, the idea that he remembered the truth about his check incorrectly because he was so inebriated, is a little far fetched? A critical point that was completely ignored by the film imo.
Again, I apoligise to everyone, but not for the level of consideration I have given your perfectly reasonable point, I am only sorry I posted it.
Some considerations are best kept to oneself, I understand that now.

I was considering the possibility that his powers of recollection had been impaired.  To get two such basic facts wrong the night the child disappeared is very odd IMO.

[John]

I agree, she didn't sound well pleased with the PJ at all and who am I to question her.
But she didn't say she followed them around every day, and I wonder what makes think her think people dispose of bodies during the day. Night time when it's dark seems the logical time for that kind of thing to me.

She was very happy to make a few Euros on the back of PJ cooperation.

[misty]

I haven't viewed the Netflix series yet, did Madeleine retrieve the other little girls hat?

It's not confirmed one way or the other. The whole incident was the recollection of 4 year old J Berry so may not be entirely accurate.

[Erngath]

It's not confirmed one way or the other. The whole incident was the recollection of 4 year old J Berry so may not be entirely accurate.

Thank you.