Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[Brietta]

The archiving report report makes it even clearer that Gerry's alibis remain unclarified.

Exactly how does it do that?

[VIXTE]

Midway through Episode 8, we have Swann describing the note which stated the McCann's & Co were booked to dine in the Tapas & would be leaving their children in the apartments. This note was apparently on display in the restaurant & could serve as a green light for an abductor.

Anyone seen this note in the files?

I remember this info from the very early days

[Angelo222]

All the bragging by Julian Peribanez came to nothing in the end. They do say if you pay peanuts you get monkeys and M3 fits that bill perfectly.

[misty]

Sorry, it does it imo... and here's why. The report clearly states regarding the reconstruction that the investigation was disturbed because the said facts remain unclarified. Those very same said facts it's referring to, include establishing Gerry's alibi. In light of those facts, the program may make Gerry's alibis clear to you and some others opinion...but my opinion takes much more satisfying. Nothing wrong with that, is there?

What about the Smith family's timeline, given both men placed themselves in Kelly's Bar for 60 mins after they left Dolphin restaurant at 9pm, making sighting of stranger + child as around 10pm? The reality was the family didn't leave Dolphin until 9.29pm as per the till receipt....so what time did Gerry really need an alibi for?

[faithlilly]

What about the Smith family's timeline, given both men placed themselves in Kelly's Bar for 60 mins after they left Dolphin restaurant at 9pm, making sighting of stranger + child as around 10pm? The reality was the family didn't leave Dolphin until 9.29pm as per the till receipt....so what time did Gerry really need an alibi for?

The three statements taken from the Smiths place their departure from Kelly’s bar anywhere from 21.50 to 22.00. By Gerry’s timeline Kate raised the alarm around 10.13. Even at the later time it wouldn’t take an individual 13 minutes to be seen by the Smiths, dump a body and be back at the tapas bar by 10.13.

[misty]

I remember this info from the very early days

Welcome back, Vixte. :)

[Brietta]

Sorry, it does it imo... and here's why. The report clearly states regarding the reconstruction that the investigation was disturbed because the said facts remain unclarified. Those very same said facts it's referring to, include establishing Gerry's alibi. In light of those facts, the program may make Gerry's alibis clear to you and some others opinion...but my opinion takes much more satisfying. Nothing wrong with that, is there?

There are three things wrong with it ...

• It is Off Topic ... this thread concerns the Netflix documentary
• Contrary to the implication in your post ... both the Archiving Dispatch and the PJ Final Report confirmed Gerry's 'alibi'
• making your post libellous innuendo

[misty]

The three statements taken from the Smiths place their departure from Kelly’s bar anywhere from 21.50 to 22.00. By Gerry’s timeline Kate raised the alarm around 10.13. Even at the later time it wouldn’t take an individual 13 minutes to be seen by the Smiths, dump a body and be back at the tapas bar by 10.13.

Wasn't it more important to establish the correct time of the sighting before looking at Gerry's alibi? How many drinks did the Smiths have in Kelly's - did no-one ever ask them? Both adult males estimated time spent in Kelly's Bar as around an hour which is considerably longer than the 25mins using Aoife's timings.

[ShiningInLuz]

 

They've been part of the gymn equipment in schools for years.
The children loved when the parachute was included in the gymn lesson.
I loved it too.

 

I've never given a gym lesson, so I had never heard of the thing before.

Personally, the idea that this apparatus is called a parachute sounds like stretching English beyond belief.

So I conducted a sanity check with my beloved.  Nope, also never heard of this before.

To whichever poster put the Google photo link, also 

I haven't got a clue how to buy one of these devices in Portugal.  But I am now working on it.

[VIXTE]

Welcome back, Vixte. :)

  Nice to see you misty and all others here again. Unfortunately I did not have time to watch the series but looking forward to watching it.

I have questions ( which to me are the biggest mysteries of this case and I followed it from the day 2):
1. Have they mentioned the Portuguese sniffer dogs?
2. Have they mentioned the doors being 'ajar' then 'wide open'?
3. The fact that Madeleine if she left on her own would need to had opened the shutters, window, open the patio curtain, close the patio curtain, open the patio doors, close the patio doors, open the garden doors, close the garden doors ( unless Gerry missed locking the front door and she left through this door - and they were used by the Portuguese sniffer dogs, too! But then, who opened the shutters and the window?)
4. The missing key?
5. Who usually parked their car in the spot where the Portuguese sniffer dogs lost their trail?
6. We live in 2019 so what about the phone records?
7. Who the 7 new suspects are? Why they are suspects?
8. Why the police never found the guy in Marrakesh with the little blond girl? Why he never came forward?

Everything else is just repeating the old stuff, widely published and insignificant.

[faithlilly]

Wasn't it more important to establish the correct time of the sighting before looking at Gerry's alibi? How many drinks did the Smiths have in Kelly's - did no-one ever ask them? Both adult males estimated time spent in Kelly's Bar as around an hour which is considerably longer than the 25mins using Aoife's timings.

The correct time of the sighting, give or take ten minutes, was agreed by all three witnesses.

[misty]

The correct time of the sighting, give or take ten minutes, was agreed by all three witnesses.

....as was the Tapas 9 timeline. So why does one need to be reconstituted to verify who was where & when but the Smith family timeline & its obvious discrepancies with electronic data doesn't? Surely both were essential to the PJ in the absence of the CCTV which would have shown Smiths returning to Estrela da Luz & possibly the passing abductor. This is pivotal to Amaral's accusations in both his book & the Netflix documentary.

[John]

Well that's nearly eight hours I won't get back. So disappointed that what promised to be an investigative documentary is nothing more than an attempted review of everything that has gone before.  The entire documentary appears to have a predisposition towards abduction, I don't believe the words woke and wandered were mentioned once?  All reference to Marcos Aragão Correia has been conveniently obliterated as has his involvement with Método 3 and Brian Kennedy.  The Smith e-fits are mentioned but all reference to them being withheld is again omitted. The refusal by the tapas 7 to take part in a reconstruction is never mentioned but criticisms of the Portuguese police and Amaral is sprinkled freely throughout the documentary.  Nil ponts to Netflix for their so-called investigative abilities but good cinematography all the same.

[pathfinder73]

What about the Smith family's timeline, given both men placed themselves in Kelly's Bar for 60 mins after they left Dolphin restaurant at 9pm, making sighting of stranger + child as around 10pm? The reality was the family didn't leave Dolphin until 9.29pm as per the till receipt....so what time did Gerry really need an alibi for?

Gerry alibi is him telling Kate to leave the table to check at exactly 22:03 and she was gone about 10 minutes. So that rules out Gerry being Smithman. He couldn't be there but that exact time (missing in earlier timelines) is crucial for another reason! They will prove where he really was!

[misty]

Gerry alibi is him telling Kate to leave the table to check at exactly 22:03 and she was gone about 10 minutes. So that rules out Gerry being Smithman. He couldn't be there but that exact time (missing in earlier timelines) is crucial for another reason! They will prove where he really was!

Please explain how a reconstruction by only the Tapas 9 would prove where Gerry was at 10.03. (best on the private thread to avoid more OT discussion).