Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is it? Do you have a cite please?

Yes, “Top Cop” Peter MAC said so to the owner of the forum you view as a valuable source of information, as you well know.

[Angelo222]

I think you are, seriously mistaken... Having looked at several other cases, which I have already posted the issue will be defamation...article8......did amarals book breach the mccanns human rights....which the state of Portugal has, deemed to be acceptable... I think it's, a, walkover fir the mccanns

You've been saying that from the beginning yet they lost the three appeals which followed the original trial.

Amaral's book was based on the facts available to him after the disappearance, very little if anything evidential-wise has altered since. Not only is Maddie's whereabouts still unknown but it has still never been established what happened to her or even if a crime was committed.

The truth is that the McCanns breached Maddies human rights by failing to reasonably protect her so no doubt the ECHR will take that into account too should they accept the case.

[Erngath]

I've finished watching all the episodes.
My over riding feeling at the moment is one of utter sadness.
The only comment for now is one of huge admiration for Jim Gamble for his sincerity, compassion and dedication.
His trying to control his emotions when describing how an abused child had been traced and found was most upsetting.

[Mr Gray]

You've been saying that from the beginning yet they lost the three appeals which followed the original trial.

Amaral's book was based on the facts available to him after the disappearance, very little if anything evidential-wise has altered since. Not only is Maddie's whereabouts still unknown but it has still never been established what happened to her or even if a crime was committed.

The truth is that the McCanns breached Maddies human rights by failing to reasonably protect her so no doubt the ECHR will take that into account too should they accept the case.

The ECHR will look at the law, and take nothing into account apart from the law.. That's the way it works.
The ECHR will simply look at the balance between articles 10 and 8 and having looked at last cases the mccanns will win... The mccanns di not have to show innocence... The revelation that the PJ didn't bother to read the whole if the FSS report is further evidence that amarals claims are not based in evidence

[faithlilly]

I've finished watching all the episodes.
My over riding feeling at the moment is one of utter sadness.
The only comment for now is one of huge admiration for Jim Gamble for his sincerity, compassion and dedication.
His trying to control his emotions when describing how an abused child had been traced and found was most upsetting.

I also found his obvious distress moving. When you meet him you realise he is not the outright ogre some suspect.
Of course this vulnerability in his character and obvious love of children would no doubt leave him open to manipulation.

[Erngath]

I also found his obvious distress moving. When you meet him you realise he is not the outright ogre some suspect.
Of course this vulnerability in his character and obvious love of children would no doubt leave him open to manipulation.

"Open to being manipulated" by whom?
Who suspect him of being an"ogre"?


Actually, forget it.
I'm not in the mood for reading another character assassination  of someone who is supportive of the McCanns.

[G-Unit]

The ECHR will look at the law, and take nothing into account apart from the law.. That's the way it works.
The ECHR will simply look at the balance between articles 10 and 8 and having looked at last cases the mccanns will win... The mccanns di not have to show innocence... The revelation that the PJ didn't bother to read the whole if the FSS report is further evidence that amarals claims are not based in evidence

Q; So why was the McCann's innocence mentioned?
A; Because their lawyer mentioned it.

[Brietta]

I've finished watching all the episodes.
My over riding feeling at the moment is one of utter sadness.
The only comment for now is one of huge admiration for Jim Gamble for his sincerity, compassion and dedication.
His trying to control his emotions when describing how an abused child had been traced and found was most upsetting.

I share your feeling of utmost admiration for Jim Gamble.

It is clear from the Netflix documentary that he actually carried out the diligence which some deny happened and using his experience as a police officer initially looked upon Kate and Gerry as potential suspects in Madeleine's disappearance.

He was well aware of the statistics which very often give those with the greater access to a child more opportunity to cause harm.  So Madeleine's parents were officially suspected and based on interrogation of the evidence and first hand contact with them were ruled out of any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

He described making them arguidos as the Judicial police "clutching at straws".

So there it is.
Two individuals appearing on camera and stating information unequivocally which in combination tends to blow some of the established misinformation in circulation out of the water.

A Portuguese journalist Sandra Felgueiras, told Netflix that her police contacts had lied to her in the leaked information they fed her and no doubt all their other journalistic contacts.
A top British police officer Jim Gamble, confirms he checked out Kate and Gerry McCann initially as suspects to the extent of even trying to get a confession but ended up convinced of their innocence.

I think the Netflix producers did a fair job with the information they had and certainly clarified one or two bones of contention.

[Brietta]

The ECHR will look at the law, and take nothing into account apart from the law.. That's the way it works.
The ECHR will simply look at the balance between articles 10 and 8 and having looked at last cases the mccanns will win... The mccanns di not have to show innocence... The revelation that the PJ didn't bother to read the whole if the FSS report is further evidence that amarals claims are not based in evidence

I think the Netflix revelation that much of the FSS report was not even translated is absolutely shattering when considering how influential the incomplete information was ... particularly in constituting Kate and Gerry as prime suspects.

[G-Unit]

Yes, “Top Cop” Peter MAC said so to the owner of the forum you view as a valuable source of information, as you well know.

Unless a cite was provided that was just an opinion.

Try to understand my opinion of that Forum. I find it a useful source of cites and that's all. I have no interest in it's member's opinions or theories.

[Mr Gray]

Unless a cite was provided that was just an opinion.

Try to understand my opinion of that Forum. I find it a useful source of cites and that's all. I have no interest in it's member's opinions or theories.

It isn't an opinion it's a statement... It's evidence... Do we have any other evidence. No

[Brietta]

"Open to being manipulated" by whom?
Who suspect him of being an"ogre"?


Actually, forget it.
I'm not in the mood for reading another character assassination  of someone who is supportive of the McCanns.

Hmmm ... I can see how a guy who served in the military police in Germany ... as head of the Special Branch of the RUC in Belfast ... in England as deputy director general of the National Crime Squad dealing with serious and organised crime which entailed working with police teams in Europe ~ Russia ~ Cambodia and parts of Europe ... and working in child exploitation ... would most definitely not be easily manipulated by anyone however persuasive.

To coin a phrase he used ... I think it is "clutching at straws" to suggest he might 🙄

[Mr Gray]

Q; So why was the McCann's innocence mentioned?
A; Because their lawyer mentioned it.

Their lawyer mentioned a lot of things..

So which article does your claim.... The SC said we weren't cleared.... For it to be a claim it must breach a human right... Which one is it.... I think you will struggle

[faithlilly]

"Open to being manipulated" by whom?
Who suspect him of being an"ogre"?


Actually, forget it.
I'm not in the mood for reading another character assassination  of someone who is supportive of the McCanns.

My, my you are touchy.

I think you’re being disingenuous by suggesting that you don’t know who suspects Gamble of being an ogre but we’ll move on.

I found Gamble very amenable when I met him. He had a good sense of humour and I found him very approachable. His obvious distress, however, at the suffering of children means he is open to having those emotions manipulated. By whom is irrelevant.

[faithlilly]

Hmmm ... I can see how a guy who served in the military police in Germany ... as head of the Special Branch of the RUC in Belfast ... in England as deputy director general of the National Crime Squad dealing with serious and organised crime which entailed working with police teams in Europe ~ Russia ~ Cambodia and parts of Europe ... and working in child exploitation ... would most definitely not be easily manipulated by anyone however persuasive.

To coin a phrase he used ... I think it is "clutching at straws" to suggest he might 🙄

Remember the judge, involved in the parents case against Leicestershire police I believe, who sent the little girl home to be killed by her dad or the case of Sally Clark who spent years in prison because of the judgement of a so called expert.
Professionals do make mistakes.

I do find it interesting that last week the supporter view was that dogs wouldn’t lick SF’s blood yet this week her judgement is beyond criticism. It’s a funny old case. Interesting though that she didn’t claim the parents were innocent.....perhaps she’s hedging her bets ?