Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The more I learn about Metodo 3 the less I understand why anyone would hire them.

As the alleged ex head of the Kidnapping Unit of Catalan was Jimenez their selling point?

Didn’t they have a proven record of successes prior to being hired?  Didn’t the M3 detective’s investigative work on the case lead to multiple paedophile arrests?   Your complete evasion of my question is noted btw.

[G-Unit]

Didn’t they have a proven record of successes prior to being hired?  Didn’t the M3 detective’s investigative work on the case lead to multiple paedophile arrests?   Your complete evasion of my question is noted btw.

That's interesting, do you have a cite?

I didn't answer your question because I had already answered it. I don't think Metodo 3 had any relevant experience. and I can only assume Kennedy went for the first PI's in the phone book. Unless they were recomended or they approached him, of course. Perhaps the Spanish police recommended them as they did to the PJ shortly afterwards;

On the 19th of October, we were contacted by the Commissary General, located in Madrid, by the Chief of the Kidnapping Unit, Alberto Carbas, who passed to us the information that the McCann family had contracted a Spanish company known as 'METODO 3'........we were asked if we were available and interested in meeting with a representative of this Spanish business, and also with the Commissary General and Chief of the Kidnapping Unit of the Police of our neighbouring country
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIAN-KENNEDY.htm

The meeting, when it happened, was with Kennedy, Jimenez and Marco. No mention of these policemen turning up.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That's interesting, do you have a cite?

I didn't answer your question because I had already answered it. I don't think Metodo 3 had any relevant experience. and I can only assume Kennedy went for the first PI's in the phone book. Unless they were recomended or they approached him, of course. Perhaps the Spanish police recommended them as they did to the PJ shortly afterwards;

On the 19th of October, we were contacted by the Commissary General, located in Madrid, by the Chief of the Kidnapping Unit, Alberto Carbas, who passed to us the information that the McCann family had contracted a Spanish company known as 'METODO 3'........we were asked if we were available and interested in meeting with a representative of this Spanish business, and also with the Commissary General and Chief of the Kidnapping Unit of the Police of our neighbouring country
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIAN-KENNEDY.htm

The meeting, when it happened, was with Kennedy, Jimenez and Marco. No mention of these policemen turning up.

A cite for what?

[Brietta]

That's interesting, do you have a cite?

I didn't answer your question because I had already answered it. I don't think Metodo 3 had any relevant experience. and I can only assume Kennedy went for the first PI's in the phone book. Unless they were recomended or they approached him, of course. Perhaps the Spanish police recommended them as they did to the PJ shortly afterwards;

On the 19th of October, we were contacted by the Commissary General, located in Madrid, by the Chief of the Kidnapping Unit, Alberto Carbas, who passed to us the information that the McCann family had contracted a Spanish company known as 'METODO 3'........we were asked if we were available and interested in meeting with a representative of this Spanish business, and also with the Commissary General and Chief of the Kidnapping Unit of the Police of our neighbouring country
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIAN-KENNEDY.htm

The meeting, when it happened, was with Kennedy, Jimenez and Marco. No mention of these policemen turning up.

Madeleine McCann private detectives expose child pornography network in Spain
Detectives hunting for Madeleine McCann have exposed a child pornography ring in Spain, leading to 13 arrests.
By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent 1:53PM GMT 19 Jan 2009
The network was discovered by Metedo 3, a private detective agency based in Barcelona hired by Gerry and Kate McCann to help find Madeleine after she disappeared.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/4289787/Madeleine-McCann-private-detectives-expose-child-pornography-network-in-Spain.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

Madeleine McCann private detectives expose child pornography network in Spain
Detectives hunting for Madeleine McCann have exposed a child pornography ring in Spain, leading to 13 arrests.
By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent 1:53PM GMT 19 Jan 2009
The network was discovered by Metedo 3, a private detective agency based in Barcelona hired by Gerry and Kate McCann to help find Madeleine after she disappeared.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/4289787/Madeleine-McCann-private-detectives-expose-child-pornography-network-in-Spain.html

I’m surprised G-Unit needed a cite for this as it was covered by the Netflix documentary.  Perhaps she didn’t watch that episode.

[G-Unit]

Madeleine McCann private detectives expose child pornography network in Spain
Detectives hunting for Madeleine McCann have exposed a child pornography ring in Spain, leading to 13 arrests.
By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent 1:53PM GMT 19 Jan 2009
The network was discovered by Metedo 3, a private detective agency based in Barcelona hired by Gerry and Kate McCann to help find Madeleine after she disappeared.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/4289787/Madeleine-McCann-private-detectives-expose-child-pornography-network-in-Spain.html

I wonder if that police success  was reported un Spain?

[Brietta]

I’m surprised G-Unit needed a cite for this as it was covered by the Netflix documentary.  Perhaps she didn’t watch that episode.

I don't think she does need a cite ... as you can see, she does like to keep  me on my toes.

[Brietta]

I wonder if that police success  was reported un Spain?

Este artículo lo puede ver en este link: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/caso-maddie-destapa-red-de-pedofilia-201141118580

[faithlilly]

I don't think she does need a cite ... as you can see, she does like to keep  me on my toes.

I’m surprised you needed a cite from me as Murat thinking the parent’s friends were shifty was covered in the documentary too.

[Brietta]

I’m surprised you needed a cite from me as Murat thinking the parent’s friends were shifty was covered in the documentary too.

I posted that Murat thought the police were setting him up.  I quoted exactly what he said in the Netflix documentary as substantiation.
I expect no less of any poster when asked for a cite. 
If you are expressing your opinion feel free to do so but say it is your opinion ... if you are putting words into someone else's mouth I believe you already know a cite is required if requested.
Please comply.

[faithlilly]

I posted that Murat thought the police were setting him up.  I quoted exactly what he said in the Netflix documentary as substantiation.
I expect no less of any poster when asked for a cite. 
If you are expressing your opinion feel free to do so but say it is your opinion ... if you are putting words into someone else's mouth I believe you already know a cite is required if requested.
Please comply.

The cite which G-Unit asked for was with regard to Metodo3 exposing a paedophile network. You provided the link to a newspaper article.

You seem to have got your wires crossed.

[faithlilly]

What I found interesting about the identification of Robert Murat by Rachel Oldfield, Fiona Payne and Russel O'Brien was the manner in which it pulled them all into perfect symmetry.
David Payne - The last independent sighting outwith the parents.
Gerry McCann - The last sighting of the child and the, ahem. fabulous moving door.
Jane Tanner - The sighting of a so called abductor who never existed according to Scotland Yard.
Matt Oldfield - The last check and another eyewitness account of yet another, ahem, fabulous moving door.
Kate McCann - The open window and the fabulous, ahem, jemmied shutter.
That just leaves three people from the four couples who never seen a thing, until, ahem, Rachel Oldfield, Fiona Payne and Russel O'Brien seen Robert Murat.
Perfect symmetry? It all seems very convenient imo. Unless you're Robert Murat, who claims he could never understand why they were all trying to take the focus in the wrong direction. 

I have always got the sense from listening to Mr Murat, that he didn't just feel it was the police who were trying to stitch him up.

I find Diane Webster’s early statements the most informative.

[Brietta]

The Netflix documentary also raised the question of yet another eye witness who saw a man exiting the veranda of of the apartment beneath her on Thursday 3rd May which happened to be that occupied by Madeleine's family and from which she vanished only hours later.

The witness described him as acting surreptitiously and her attention was drawn because of the manner in which he opened and closed the outer gate as quietly as was possible.

Netflix wondered why that information appeared to be ignored?

[pathfinder73]

LOL she couldn't see that gate from where she was seated. She would be able to see Oldfield's gate.

[faithlilly]

The Netflix documentary also raised the question of yet another eye witness who saw a man exiting the veranda of of the apartment beneath her on Thursday 3rd May which happened to be that occupied by Madeleine's family and from which she vanished only hours later.

The witness described him as acting surreptitiously and her attention was drawn because of the manner in which he opened and closed the outer gate as quietly as was possible.

Netflix wondered why that information appeared to be ignored?

If you read Carol Tranmer’s statement the gate she saw the man exiting from was in the alleyway in front of the apartments, Oldfield’s apartment I believe.

This is the problem with the documentary. The gate that was shown to illustrate Swan’s words was shown as being the parents, however Swan didn’t say it was that gate but merely that it was one on the ground floor.