Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[Vertigo Swirl]

He had no qualms about telling the crew filming them on a documentary that he was on the other side of the road.. I believe Jane was upset by this remark?

It is something so stupid and could be something of nothing, BUT I just wonder why make a thing of it?
It has some significance i'm sure.

Is that a belief I see...?

[Vertigo Swirl]

We don’t know that. There was no context to that particular scene so she could have been crying over anything.

Yeah, she probably just broke her flipflop.

[Mr Gray]

Is that a belief I see...?

every time a poster writes...imo....that is expressing a belief...but of corse some people dont do beliefs....LOL

[barrier]

What nonsense you post.
Jane was upset ... terribly upset as she relived the trauma ... that had she known there was an abduction in progress she could have stopped it with one shout.  But she didn't know and the man and the child walked into history.

Who identified the person that Tanner saw, to be an allged abductor, please.

[Brietta]

Who identified the person that Tanner saw, to be an allged abductor, please.

The only eye witness certainly believed that she saw Madeleine being abducted and I think she had very good reason for thinking that immediately she heard the hue and cry which alerted her that Madeleine was missing from her bed ...
Madeleine Was Here
Part 4 of 5

2:35
I was walking up here to do the check … probably got to about here … I saw the man walk across the road there carrying a child …
3:33
  ... Why the hell didn’t you think there was somebody abducting a child … but its not a thought that somebody is going to go into an apartment and take a child out
I’m probably the one person who could have stopped them … there is that what if … what if …

https://youtu.be/na4aBr5PTYY


Jane's distress and trauma is palpable as a direct result of what she witnessed even many months down the line.  Which leads me to another sceptic belief which saw her being called "Liar" from one end of the internet to the other.

The only eye witness to a probable abduction being deliberately trolled and traduced in the face of police not bothering to track down Dr Totman until 2013.  Verifying that indeed a man had been walking home carrying his daughter around the time Jane saw a man carrying a child.

[faithlilly]

The only eye witness certainly believed that she saw Madeleine being abducted and I think she had very good reason for thinking that immediately she heard the hue and cry which alerted her that Madeleine was missing from her bed ...
Madeleine Was Here
Part 4 of 5

2:35
I was walking up here to do the check … probably got to about here … I saw the man walk across the road there carrying a child …
3:33
  ... Why the hell didn’t you think there was somebody abducting a child … but its not a thought that somebody is going to go into an apartment and take a child out
I’m probably the one person who could have stopped them … there is that what if … what if …

https://youtu.be/na4aBr5PTYY


Jane's distress and trauma is palpable as a direct result of what she witnessed even many months down the line.  Which leads me to another sceptic belief which saw her being called "Liar" from one end of the internet to the other.

The only eye witness to a probable abduction being deliberately trolled and traduced in the face of police not bothering to track down Dr Totman until 2013.  Verifying that indeed a man had been walking home carrying his daughter around the time Jane saw a man carrying a child.

Tanner’s distress is a stand-alone piece of film and could have several causes. To be fair though I’d be upset if I’d just been humiliated and had my recollection trounced on film.

[G-Unit]

This makes no sense at all.  Jez Wilkins saw his talk with Jez Wilkins, no need for any other witnesses who may or may not have actually existed in the first place.

Jez was on the 5A side of the road, with Gerry, near the gate, but didn't confirm the time Gerry gave.
Jane supplied the time but placed the men above the side gate as if Gerry had been coming from the direction of the car park. 
Jez didn't see Jane and didn't think she could have passed them wihout being seen
Gerry said he exited the side gate and crossed the road to speak to Jez at around 9.10

It doesn't match very well in my opinion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Jez was on the 5A side of the road, with Gerry, near the gate, but didn't confirm the time Gerry gave.
Jane supplied the time but placed the men above the side gate as if Gerry had been coming from the direction of the car park. 
Jez didn't see Jane and didn't think she could have passed them wihout being seen
Gerry said he exited the side gate and crossed the road to speak to Jez at around 9.10

It doesn't match very well in my opinion.

So what?

[barrier]

The only eye witness certainly believed that she saw Madeleine being abducted and I think she had very good reason for thinking that immediately she heard the hue and cry which alerted her that Madeleine was missing from her bed ...
Madeleine Was Here
Part 4 of 5

2:35
I was walking up here to do the check … probably got to about here … I saw the man walk across the road there carrying a child …
3:33
  ... Why the hell didn’t you think there was somebody abducting a child … but its not a thought that somebody is going to go into an apartment and take a child out
I’m probably the one person who could have stopped them … there is that what if … what if …

https://youtu.be/na4aBr5PTYY


Jane's distress and trauma is palpable as a direct result of what she witnessed even many months down the line.  Which leads me to another sceptic belief which saw her being called "Liar" from one end of the internet to the other.

The only eye witness to a probable abduction being deliberately trolled and traduced in the face of police not bothering to track down Dr Totman until 2013.  Verifying that indeed a man had been walking home carrying his daughter around the time Jane saw a man carrying a child.

Strangely the person whom indentified by Redwood as being  in being in the excat same area at that time never saw anything,ref timeline moved on.

[Eleanor]

The only eye witness certainly believed that she saw Madeleine being abducted and I think she had very good reason for thinking that immediately she heard the hue and cry which alerted her that Madeleine was missing from her bed ...
Madeleine Was Here
Part 4 of 5

2:35
I was walking up here to do the check … probably got to about here … I saw the man walk across the road there carrying a child …
3:33
  ... Why the hell didn’t you think there was somebody abducting a child … but its not a thought that somebody is going to go into an apartment and take a child out
I’m probably the one person who could have stopped them … there is that what if … what if …

https://youtu.be/na4aBr5PTYY


Jane's distress and trauma is palpable as a direct result of what she witnessed even many months down the line.  Which leads me to another sceptic belief which saw her being called "Liar" from one end of the internet to the other.

The only eye witness to a probable abduction being deliberately trolled and traduced in the face of police not bothering to track down Dr Totman until 2013.  Verifying that indeed a man had been walking home carrying his daughter around the time Jane saw a man carrying a child.

Unfortunately Dr. Totman would have been walking in the wrong direction.  We all know this, of course, as we all have a greater knowledge of Luz Locations, which Andy Redwood doesn't appear to have had.

Was this a crying shame?  I think so.  But I doubt that it matters all that much anyway.

Andy Redwood didn't do enough research, which has probably now gone into the annals of time.  But no one is perfect.

I believe that Jane Tanner saw the abduction, unbeknown to her at the time, and I am able to Follow the path that would have been taken, down to The Smith Sighting, and heading for The Beach of Light.  From whence Madeleine was picked up by someone with a boat.

I believe that it was a planned Abduction by someone who wanted to adopt a girl child of Madeleine's age, but I suspect that any such middle class girl child would have done.

Sadly, I believe that Amaral thought that all of his birthdays had come at once.  This for him was going to prove that Mothers kill their daughters, and consequently absolve him from the appalling handling of the disappearance of Joanna Cipriano.

Fortunately, Kate McCann never fell down any stairs, but don't think she might not have done, given the opportunity.

[Brietta]

Strangely the person whom indentified by Redwood as being  in being in the excat same area at that time never saw anything,ref timeline moved on.

You know absolutely nothing about what Dr Totman disclosed when he was at long last interviewed by the police.

I find it interesting that he and other witnesses were obviously interviewed as part of the review yet nobody knew a thing about it.  Not a single forum anywhere knew who was being interviewed, or when, or where or even that interviews with material witnesses were in progress.

[faithlilly]

Unfortunately Dr. Totman would have been walking in the wrong direction.  We all know this, of course, as we all have a greater knowledge of Luz Locations, which Andy Redwood doesn't appear to have had.

Was this a crying shame?  I think so.  But I doubt that it matters all that much anyway.

Andy Redwood didn't do enough research, which has probably now gone into the annals of time.  But no one is perfect.

I believe that Jane Tanner saw the abduction, unbeknown to her at the time, and I am able to Follow the path that would have been taken, down to The Smith Sighting, and heading for The Beach of Light.  From whence Madeleine was picked up by someone with a boat.

I believe that it was a planned Abduction by someone who wanted to adopt a girl child of Madeleine's age, but I suspect that any such middle class girl child would have done.

Sadly, I believe that Amaral thought that all of his birthdays had come at once.  This for him was going to prove that Mothers kill their daughters, and consequently absolve him from the appalling handling of the disappearance of Joanna Cipriano.

Fortunately, Kate McCann never fell down any stairs, but don't think she might not have done, given the opportunity.

So you believe Redwood when he said the parents were not suspects but not that OG had identified Tannerman ?

If he and his team could make this huge error due to bad research imagine what else they’ve missed.

[Mr Gray]

whats the provenace for totman walking in the wrong direction...is it just the crimewatch recon

[Eleanor]

So you believe Redwood when he said the parents were not suspects but not that OG had identified Tannerman ?

If he and his team could make this huge error due to bad research imagine what else they’ve missed.

Yes, it is all a bit of a bad one.  Was it Andy Redwood, or was it Operation Grange?  Who actually said that The Mccanns weren't suspects?

As far as I know Andy Redwood just got Dr. Totman wrong, which pretty nearly left me gobsmacked.  I very nearly lost my faith in British Detectives.  Sheesh, I should have become a British Police Detective many moons ago.  But then they probably wouldn't have had me.  I am much too logical.  I don't have a gut instinct.

Are The McCanns still suspects?  I don't know.  But they would have a mighty hard time proving it.  In fact, it is never going to happen.

On balance of logic, I think not.  But you don't want to know why anymore.  It has all been said too many times.

I no longer have any real anger against Sceptics.  But it has been a hard road, and ultimately taught me more about myself.

[Eleanor]

whats the provenace for totman walking in the wrong direction...is it just the crimewatch recon

Just where his appartment was, and The Creche from whence he was supposedly coming.