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[Robittybob1]

I was referring to members of this Forum and other Forums.  The Police won't have had a problem.

What they read that and accept it?   Would the police not question it if they read:  "It was around 15h25/18h00" in a statement?

[Eleanor]

What they read that and accept it?   Would the police not question it if they read:  "It was around 15h25/18h00" in a statement?

Who wrote that and in what context?

[Robittybob1]

Who wrote that and in what context?

As I understand it was in Cat Baker's statement, she was English so she'd need a translator to take her statement.  We have really no idea how that process worked i.e. who actually determined what was written as  a statement in Portuguese.  Those times are in the Portuguese statement (someone told us this, I haven't checked myself).

If we think the time range is too large the problem happened in Portugal. 
If what is written is what she meant then the problem is ours.

[G-Unit]

As I understand it was in Cat Baker's statement, she was English so she'd need a translator to take her statement.  We have really no idea how that process worked i.e. who actually determined what was written as  a statement in Portuguese.  Those times are in the Portuguese statement (someone told us this, I haven't checked myself).

If we think the time range is too large the problem happened in Portugal. 
If what is written is what she meant then the problem is ours.

Cat's rogatory statement was taken by LP

[Eleanor]

As I understand it was in Cat Baker's statement, she was English so she'd need a translator to take her statement.  We have really no idea how that process worked i.e. who actually determined what was written as  a statement in Portuguese.  Those times are in the Portuguese statement (someone told us this, I haven't checked myself).

If we think the time range is too large the problem happened in Portugal. 
If what is written is what she meant then the problem is ours.

But what was it referring to?

Sorry, that sounds rude.  I didn't mean it to.

[Robittybob1]

But what was it referring to?

Sorry, that sounds rude.  I didn't mean it to.

You were right to question me.  This is what is recorded in the rogatory:

 "On Thursday the 3rd of May 2007, I remember Gerry having accompanied Madeleine to the club between 9h15 and 9h20 in the morning. I do not remember who came to pick her up for lunch but after she returned in the afternoon for a dive/swim. These activities were realized with the other children. On this day I remember that we sailed and I saw friends of the McCanns on the beach, David and Jane. Around 14h45 Madeleine returned to the Minis Club on top of the reception but I do not remember who accompanied her. This afternoon we went swimming. Kate went to get Madeleine from the Tapas Bar area and according to what I remember she was wearing sporting clothes and I assumed that she was practicing some form of athletics. It was around 15h25/18h00. I think that Gerry was playing tennis."

So what is she referring to was it the time Kate went to the Tapas area to pick up the kids?  Or was it the period of time Gerry was playing tennis.

In the majority of the rogatories we start with a verbatim statement as it is recorded but here we have a Portuguese transcription of what she said in English already translated to Portuguese.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAT_BAKER.htm

[Eleanor]

You were right to question me.  This is what is recorded in the rogatory:

 "On Thursday the 3rd of May 2007, I remember Gerry having accompanied Madeleine to the club between 9h15 and 9h20 in the morning. I do not remember who came to pick her up for lunch but after she returned in the afternoon for a dive/swim. These activities were realized with the other children. On this day I remember that we sailed and I saw friends of the McCanns on the beach, David and Jane. Around 14h45 Madeleine returned to the Minis Club on top of the reception but I do not remember who accompanied her. This afternoon we went swimming. Kate went to get Madeleine from the Tapas Bar area and according to what I remember she was wearing sporting clothes and I assumed that she was practicing some form of athletics. It was around 15h25/18h00. I think that Gerry was playing tennis."

So what is she referring to was it the time Kate went to the Tapas area to pick up the kids?  Or was it the period of time Gerry was playing tennis.

In the majority of the rogatories we start with a verbatim statement as it is recorded but here we have a Portuguese transcription of what she said in English already translated to Portuguese.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAT_BAKER.htm

Could be either.  And could be the Translator.  But hardly earth shattering.

[Robittybob1]

Could be either.  And could be the Translator.  But hardly earth shattering.

When does a discrepancy become a deception.

[G-Unit]

Whatever was going on there's no definite statement from Cat Baker that she took Madeleine to the Tapas area for her tea and handed her over to her mother at 5.30.

[Brietta]

When does a discrepancy become a deception.

When vindictive and ill informed members of internet fora decide it is. IMO

[Robittybob1]

Whatever was going on there's no definite statement from Cat Baker that she took Madeleine to the Tapas area for her tea and handed her over to her mother at 5.30.

Who signs out Madeleine on the creche attendance forms?  Kate McCann signs her out at 17.30  The sheets are not counter signed by the nanny present.  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CRECHE/Processo-pdf01-pages-107-111[105-109]/processopdf01page107-CrecheRecords3.jpg

[jassi]

Whatever was going on there's no definite statement from Cat Baker that she took Madeleine to the Tapas area for her tea and handed her over to her mother at 5.30.

She said they went swimming in the afternoon session - I think, but she is somewhat vague over timings and days.
Anyway, this would be the small pool within the Tapas compound, the pool featured in the 'last picture'.

Is it likely that she would march the children from their play area above main reception to the pool, then back again for some other activity AND then back to the Tapas for Teatime ?

I think it more likely that the swimming session would be the last activity of the day and the children would remain in the Tapas area awaiting collection by a parent.
That being so, how reliable would the afternoon signing-out procedure be?

[G-Unit]

She said they went swimming in the afternoon session - I think, but she is somewhat vague over timings and days.
Anyway, this would be the small pool within the Tapas compound, the pool featured in the 'last picture'.

Is it likely that she would march the children from their play area above main reception to the pool, then back again for some other activity AND then back to the Tapas for Teatime ?

I think it more likely that the swimming session would be the last activity of the day and the children would remain in the Tapas area awaiting collection by a parent.
That being so, how reliable would the afternoon signing-out procedure be?

I don't think they would have put the children in that freezing cold pool, they would have used the indoor one near main reception.

[jassi]

I don't think they would have put the children in that freezing cold pool, they would have used the indoor one near main reception.

OK

[Carana]

It could be any of the three.

It could have been the LP officer attempting to reformat it for his PT colleagues and made a mistake, but I find it just as likely that whoever translated the LP statement into PT could equally have made a mistake in converting what may have been written in English to Portguese: she could have said "between five twenty-five and six", and the translator reformatted it, but missed correcting "5" to "7". Easily done in a rush.

If Cat had broadened the time frame, there's no explanation given, which would have been a point to clarify.